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Re: DELETE leaving a lock-null resource; was LOCK Scenarios

From: Geoffrey M. Clemm <geoffrey.clemm@rational.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 11:56:52 -0400
Message-Id: <9910231556.AA23816@tantalum>
To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org
OK, now that the new versioning protocol draft is out the door,
time to get back to locking (:-).

I'll try out the: "Simplified RFC-2518 Locking, Version-2" proposal
against the issues raised here.

   From: ccjason@us.ibm.com

   ....  The server is responsible for
   retrieving the same resource whenever the client gives it a URL
   and a lock token (think of it as a private binding that the server
   keeps around).

   <jc/> Geoff, I think Jim's point was that the same lock could have been
   rooted at many places over the course of time as it has moved.  In
   fact due to multiple bindings and such... we've added even one more
   multiplier to the size of the list that needs to be maintained.  His
   question though was how long does the server need to maintain it.  I
   guess the server/lock would need to remember all of it's URI's until
   the resource is eventually UNLOCK'd.

<gmc/> The server has to remember the association of a lock token with a
particular resource.  Since this is the server, it doesn't need to
use some URL ... it just keeps a handle on the resource that
is independent of the http URL space.

   The server could do this by just refusing to MOVE
   or DELETE the resource (as is required by the current 2518 draft),
   or by just remembering what resource is associated with that
   <URL, lock-token> pair.  All we are doing here is giving the server
   some additional flexibility in implementation that was constrained
   by the current language in 2518.

   <jc/> I see.  So the proposal is that a server either to protect the
   URI... or to maintain a way for a client to follow where it moved
   to... and you're proposing the mechanism to do the latter.
   Interesting.  It could be a market differentiator.  It would mean a
   bit more complexity for the client to support either type of server
   though.  Not much though.  I think if the client supported what you're
   proposing, they'd also work with a system that does URI protection.
   They'd just wouldn't execute the code that deals with what happens
   after a remapping.


   <jc/> Also note: in the presence of depth locks... zillions of
   resources can be locked.  I don't think this necessarily increases the
   size of the list of lock URI's maintained since I believe only the
   URI's of the root of the lock need to be maintained... but it does
   mean that the resolution algorithm has to be more sophisticated since
   it would also need to remap the URI of child resources also.

And if we do not support depth locks, the issue goes away completely (:-).

   <jc/> This means that a client must submit lock tokens with GETs and
   PROPFIND's just to insure it gets redirected when necessary.  No
   biggie I suppose.

<gmc/> Right.  The client uses the lock token for all requests on a
locked resource, rather than only using them for requests that might
update the locked resource.

   <jc/> I'm not sure this would work well with clients that seperate the lock
   action from subsequent actions on the locked resources.  That is, a
   human is running the client code.  The human requests the locks.  Then
   a human requests various actions on resources that "just happen to be
   locked".  I guess that whenever the human requests an action on a
   resource, the client application would just need to make a point of
   finding all locks that apply to a resource... even if inherited... and
   submit them with the request.  I guess this sort of client app often
   would have to do this anyway, but now they must also do it for
   PROPFIND and GET also.  Okay, no biggie.

<gmc/> Also note that a human would always need a client doing the real
work in a locking context, since it is unlikely that a human ever would
or could remember the lock token strings that are needed to work with a
locked resource.

   <jc/> It also means that I believe for the first time in WebDAV,
   it actually becomes functionally important to specify the URI at
   which we think a
   lock is rooted when we submit the lock token.

<gmc/> Without depth locking, the lock token is all that is needed.

   <jc/> If someone does a MOVE... and all the tokens
   of all the would-be protected URI's are submitted, the server doesn't
   need to maintain a remapping list because the client already knows
   which locks have lost those mappings.  It's only the URI's for locks
   for which no tokens were submitted that the server needs to remember
   the remapping.  This might provide for more efficient operation.

<gmc/> If the server just keeps track of what resource is locked by
a particular lock token, then remapping just consists of returning
a valid URL to that resource in a 302.

   <jc/> A lock can have many mappings and a single operation can delete
   multiple mappings of a lock. Previously we said that each lock had a
   particular URI that was protected... and only when that URI was moved,
   did feel compelled to do any kind of lock remapping.  Although we
   could probably guess, t now claim to know what lock mapping(s) the
   client really cares about.  None are more privledged.  I think the
   previous paragraph has to be modified to state that if any of these
   locks have other mappings than the mappings submitted with the token,
   then all of those others that are broken by an operation need to go
   onto the remapping list for that lock.  Is this really *required*?  I
   think technically yes... but probably not in practice.  The client
   probably only knows a lock by one mapping... and it will be the one
   that the client will submit.
   Protecting a URI is sounding easier.  :-)

<gmc/> Associating a lock token with a single resource until
it is unlocked is probably even easier (:-).

Received on Saturday, 23 October 1999 11:57:03 UTC

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