- From: Weibel,Stu <weibel@oclc.org>
- Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 09:06:44 -0500
- To: "Dan Connolly" <connolly@w3.org>
- Cc: <uri@w3.org>
I think there are probably several possible solutions to the land-grab problem, and I'll suggest one or two in this note. Before I do that, I want to reinforce the point that solving a potential problem by crippling one of the essential technical requirements we want in the URI namespace is almost certainly a mistake, and we should avoid it if at all possible, and I think it IS possible to avoid it. The Latency Approach Larry, in a private message to me, has hinted at one way. I'm not sure if it is a serious proposal at this time, or more in the nature of thinking out loud, so I'll leave explication of his ideas to him. Lets call it the Latency Approach. The Toll Gate Approach A way I've thought about but have hesitated to suggest until now is put up a toll gate that will inhibit speculation. We currently charge people nominal fees for domain registrations. Why? Because there is infrastructure that must be supported. The amount is so low as not to be an impediment to name squatting, but no one seems to have run out of clever URL phrases in any case. URI schemes are different... We don't expect thousands, and one might argue that short names are much more important than with URLs, so we think we need to protect the juicy ones. Let me note that I think it is unlikely that we'll run out of juicy ones anytime soon, either, but I don't have a strong conviction about how serious the problem will be, and I agree it is prudent to anticipate a problem. What sort of toll will retard the speculative introduction of vanity URI schemes while not unduly penalizing well-thought-out innovation? Some amount of earnest work and some amount of money are both considerations. The work part might be an internet draft or similar documentation requirement, and that is already part of the scene. The money part might be a registration fee (that could in turn be used to promote more rapid evaluation of proposals. What would a sensible amount be? $1,000 USD? $2,000? $5,000? It is hard to tell if this would be a significant impediment to squatting but I think it might be. The Endorsement Approach A possible policy safeguard might be to require multi-organizational endorsement. A required section of an ID might be an endorsement-of-utility assertion: signed assertions by individuals from three independent organizations asserting the recognition by the organization that the proposed scheme meets a set of requirements and is important to a community. The assertions would be made by individuals representing the organizations, assuring both individual accountability and organizational accountability. Endorsements of frivolous schemes would be like pyublishing bad data in a paper. Please note that none of these are proposals... They are simply responses to Dan's question... brainstorming *policy* solutions to a *policy* problem. What we are facing at the moment is a *technical* solution to a *policy* problem, and I think that this is generally a dangerous way to enact policy. The side effects will be unpredictable and pernicious, and a cure, if it should be needed, is likely to be harder to implement. stu -----Original Message----- From: Dan Connolly [mailto:connolly@w3.org] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 1:54 PM To: Weibel,Stu Cc: uri@w3.org Subject: RE: Duplication of provisional URI namespace tokens in 2717/8-bis On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 13:47 -0500, Weibel,Stu wrote: > They clearly are related, but they are different requirements and > distinct mechanisms for coping with them can be elaborated. Maybe I'm just not very creative, but I don't see how. An example of how to address the land-grab problem without allowing duplicates would make your point much easier for me to see. > As currently written, 2717/18 needlessly sacrifices one requirement to > guard against danger to the other. > > stu > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Connolly [mailto:connolly@w3.org] > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 1:33 PM > To: Weibel,Stu > Cc: uri@w3.org > Subject: RE: Duplication of provisional URI namespace tokens in > 2717/8-bis > > On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 13:04 -0500, Weibel,Stu wrote: > [...] > > Larry Masinter raises a legitimate concern about land-grab > > speculation > > > of URI scheme names. This concern deserves attention, but must be > > divorced from the functional requirement of unique scheme tokens in > > the URI space. > > ??? > > They're intimately connected. I don't think it's possible nor > advisable, let alone mandatory, to separate them. > > The land-grab phenomenon results from scarcity. > Uniqueness creates the scarcity. -- Dan Connolly, W3C http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/ D3C2 887B 0F92 6005 C541 0875 0F91 96DE 6E52 C29E
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