- From: Charles Lindsey <chl@clerew.man.ac.uk>
- Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:09:51 +0100
- To: uri@w3.org
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 15:59:49 -0400, Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org>
wrote:
> c. '*' as a group wildcard?
> This can be found 'in the wild' in running code in Lynx.
> http://lynx.isc.org/lynx2.8.5/lynx2-8-5/lynx_help/lynx_url_support.html#news_url
I looked at that, and I see now what it is meant to do.
But then I spotted another bug in my proposed text, so let me fix that
first:
> At 2:16 PM +0100 9/22/04, Charles Lindsey wrote:
>>>
>>> newsURL = "news" ":" [ news-server ]
>>> ( newsgroup-name | '*' | message-id )
>>> news-server = "//" server "/"
>>> message-id = id-left "@" id-right
>> Next, we really need some text to explain what resource is supposed to
>> be retrieved by this URL. Something like:
Here we need to insert:
"There are three cases:
1. The <newsURL. contains a <message-id>:"
and then the text I had before:
>> "The resource retrieved by this URL is the Netnews article with the
>> given <message-id>. In a properly working Netnews system, the same
>> article will be obtained whatever server is accessed for the purpose
>> (assuming the server in question carried that article in the first
>> place and that it has not expired). If no <server> is specified, the
>> article is to be retrieved from whatever server has been configured
>> for local use."
and now the other cases:
"2. The <newsURL. contains a <newsgroup-name>:
The resource retrieved by this URL is some means to gain access to
the articles in the given <newsgroup-name> that are available on the
given <server> (usually by invoking a suitable news reading agent
initialized to access that group). If no <server> is specified, the
groups are to be retrieved from whatever server has been configured
for local use."
3. The <newsURL. contains a '*':"
and here we can look at the RFC 1738 text:
>>> If <newsgroup-name> is "*" (as in <URL:news:*>), it is used to refer
>>> to "all available news groups".
which I would now interpret as:
"The resource retrieved by this URL is some means to gain access to
all the newsgroups that are available on the given <server>
(usually by invoking a suitable news reading agent). If no <server>
is specified, the access is to be to whatever server has been
configured for local use."
So that is what it does, but is it really sensible to define a URL whose
only effect is to fire up your local news agent? I still think it should
go.
And of course all that wording could probably be pruned somewhat.
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