From: "Ronald E. Daniel" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Message-Id: <9506261154.ZM7711@idaknow.acl.lanl.gov> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 11:54:59 -0600 In-Reply-To: Brian Behlendorf <email@example.com> To: Brian Behlendorf <firstname.lastname@example.org>, Terry Allen <email@example.com> Subject: Re: Re SGML URC spec comments Cc: firstname.lastname@example.org On Jun 25, 8:54pm, Brian Behlendorf wrote: > On Sun, 25 Jun 1995, Terry Allen wrote: [Brian wrote the > > > material] > > >The question is, how does one ask for the complete set of SOAPs > > > for a given page? > > > > I don't think you can, other than by querying all the UR* servers > > you know about. If anyone can make an URC (potentially including > > a SOAP, as URCs are extensible), then a SOAP could pop up anywhere. I agree with Terry that it will not be possible to discover *all* URCs for a resource, and the best you can do is ask all the URC servers you know about if they have any info on a particular resource. I think this is desireable. Certainly, the notion of knowing what everyone else has ever said about a document is initially very attractive, but there are a few problems. First, I may not want just anyone to see my notes on a resource, or I may want to charge them for the priviledge. Second, we have all seen the variable quality of unmoderated postings. Do you *really* want to see *everything*? I sure don't. There are cases where URCs are intended for private use. For example, consider a grad student working on a thesis and keeping a URC-based equivalent of a BibTEX database for references. This would have personal comments that are intended for private use. There is no reason that such a thing has to be known to the world. > It would be nice if the author/server *could* provide a pointer to those > SOAPs (man, two levels of indirection) as a service. This would imply > the SOAP-creation agent would send some sort of notification to the > original dociument's server, which could be ignored if the server doesn't > want to support it. It would be easy enough for publishers to provide such a submission mechanism, just to handle customer feedback if nothing else. It could appear in the <relation> element of the current URC proposal. However, I think we would all agree that it shouldn't be mandatory. -- Ron Daniel Jr. email: email@example.com Advanced Computing Lab voice: (505) 665-0597 MS B-287 TA-3 Bldg. 2011 fax: (505) 665-4939 Los Alamos National Lab http://www.acl.lanl.gov/~rdaniel/ Los Alamos, NM, 87545 tautology: "Conformity is very popular"