Re: AIML?

Sounds like reading the RDF Primer could clear some things up for you :)
https://www.w3.org/TR/rdf11-primer/

On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 11:22 AM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
wrote:

> thank you Martynas
>
> I become a little confused, because I consider turtle a type of RDF
> we ll keep Turtle in mind when we get to this work
>
> I presume encoding ( xml to rdf to turtle mapping/conversion) should not
> be a problem?
>
> the problem  is modelling the domain
>
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 2:18 PM, Martynas Jusevičius <
> martynas@atomgraph.com> wrote:
>
>> If you're thinking RDF graphs, they have multiple different syntaxes. One
>> of them is based on XML markup (RDF/XML), which is useful in an XML
>> pipeline.. But plain text-based Turtle syntax is much more human-readable.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 10:22 AM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you for sharing Milton
>>>
>>> nice pointer to this interesting project  but, isnt markup languages
>>> still
>>> required/useful for representation even in knowledge graphs?
>>>
>>> and if not, isnt markup language the most basic way to enable
>>> intelligent knowledge exchange on the web
>>> so that it can be useful even without a knowledge graph?
>>>
>>> pdm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 9:22 AM, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <
>>> metadataportals@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Modeling AI on the web in my humble opinion is no longer a question of
>>>> simple markup languages, the Internet of Things or more succinctly Internet
>>>> of Data, Devices, DNA and Digital Agents (IOD4) increasingly uses both AI
>>>> and virtual reality technologies.
>>>>
>>>> In such a setting using ontologies, parsers and any automated process
>>>> that codes or decodes and interfaces, either in NL setting or otherwise
>>>> must use of category theory to create the required abstraction for
>>>> knowledge graphs.
>>>>
>>>> Take a look at the Blue Brain Nexus for lateral thinking:
>>>>
>>>> BlueBrain/nexus <https://github.com/BlueBrain/nexus>
>>>>
>>>> BlueBrain/nexus
>>>> nexus - Blue Brain Nexus - A knowledge graph for data-driven science
>>>> <https://github.com/BlueBrain/nexus>
>>>>
>>>> Milton Ponson
>>>> GSM: +297 747 8280
>>>> PO Box 1154, Oranjestad
>>>> Aruba, Dutch Caribbean
>>>> Project Paradigm: Bringing the ICT tools for sustainable development
>>>> to all stakeholders worldwide through collaborative research on applied
>>>> mathematics, advanced modeling, software and standards development
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, May 12, 2018 10:29 AM, Paola Di Maio <
>>>> paola.dimaio@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks a lot
>>>>
>>>> looks useful- and a good start
>>>>
>>>> so MLschema is in practice a... MLML.?
>>>> a draft -
>>>>
>>>> is it suggested that all knowledge schemas to support
>>>> automated reasoning and AI should/could adopt its core elements as its
>>>> base
>>>> (in which I could think if/how this can help my task maybeevaluate it
>>>> against our use cases)
>>>>
>>>> I checked out OpenML and found no credits, who did it, when etc
>>>> also it is not clear if its openmarkuplanguage or openmedialibrary
>>>> since both seem associated with the same group (Kronos? are they
>>>> associated with OKF ?)
>>>>  both come up in searches
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 6:58 PM, brandon whitehead <
>>>> brandonnodnarb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Paola,
>>>> The machine learning community group [1] published a draft core schema
>>>> about a year ago that, at the very least, may be of  interest (link on
>>>> main page).
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://www.w3.org/community/ ml-schema/
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/community/ml-schema/>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> /Brandon
>>>>
>>>> On 12/05/18 11:51, Paola Di Maio wrote:
>>>> > Eric
>>>> > Yes, of course getting the key stakeholders involved-
>>>> >
>>>> >  since you are familiar with the member base
>>>> > i ll be happy to pitch directly members who are working on AI
>>>> > if you could suggest a way to shortlist them/approach them
>>>> >
>>>> > P
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 3:36 PM, Eric Prud'hommeaux <eric@w3.org
>>>> > <mailto:eric@w3.org>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >     * Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com
>>>> >     <mailto:paola.dimaio@gmail.com >> [2018-05-12 15:15+0530]
>>>> >     > Thank you Eric
>>>> >     >
>>>> >     > at this stage, I was thinking of some web based knowledge
>>>> representation
>>>> >     > mechanism or ML for something that I am working on related to AI
>>>> >     > (I have learned my lessons- glad to share details of this early
>>>> concept
>>>> >     > offlist to those who may express interest until it's solid )
>>>> >     >
>>>> >     > I did a search, and found AIML which seems the closest to what
>>>> I require
>>>> >     > however could not find a formal specification to study it
>>>> further, and
>>>> >     > wondered about any interest to W3C.
>>>> >     >
>>>> >     > I am pretty sure the web needs what I am thinking of, to what
>>>> extent its
>>>> >     > feasible or we can find folks to do it and adopt it, I dunno
>>>> >
>>>> >     To motivate standardization, you have to dig up use cases that not
>>>> >     only need some technology, but motivate distinct entities using a
>>>> >     common form or interface to that technology. So a win would be
>>>> >     e.g. when folks can combine commodity tools to generate such data
>>>> >     with commodity tools which make use of it.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >     > >  There's nothing saying you
>>>> >     > > can't have a hybrid system which e.g. uses SemWeb for entity
>>>> >     > > recognition (à la NCBO annotator) or records ML assertions in
>>>> >     RDF for
>>>> >     > > further rule execution. That requires people to have
>>>> expertise and
>>>> >     > > commitment in both camps and so far, those folks haven't
>>>> banded
>>>> >     > > together with a set of shared use cases and goals.
>>>> >     >
>>>> >     >
>>>> >     > Am thinking of something fluid,  ML should be sufficient for my
>>>> >     requirement
>>>> >     > at this stage- also confess that i favour simplicity over
>>>> >     sophistication
>>>> >     >
>>>> >     > but could not find anything that does what I require so
>>>> thinking maybe
>>>> >     > something can be done-
>>>> >     >
>>>> >     >
>>>> >     > > If you can muster
>>>> >     > > the troops (an army of five, to be exact), you can easily
>>>> create
>>>> >     a W3C
>>>> >     > > Community Group (see [CREATE A COMMUNITY GROUP] at
>>>> >     > > <https://www.w3.org/community/ groups/
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/community/groups/>
>>>> >     <https://www.w3.org/community/ groups/
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/community/groups/>>>).
>>>>
>>>> >     > >
>>>> >     >
>>>> >     > yep, done it before. I chaired a nice group that did good work
>>>> for
>>>> >     one year
>>>> >     > then suddenly fell silent and I am still traumatized  by the
>>>> >     experience. :-)
>>>> >     > (joke - it was valuable!)
>>>> >     >
>>>> >     >  anyone interested in AI ML of sorts who is reliable and
>>>> >     competent  (not
>>>> >     > afraid of failure?) welcome to brainstorm offlist to discuss
>>>> early
>>>> >     stage
>>>> >     > concept for this work
>>>> >     >
>>>> >     > , I need specifically folks who can do implementation side of
>>>> things
>>>> >     > (writing a parsers for validation, and implement the test cases
>>>> >     etc) and
>>>> >     > who are good at getting research funding - I am okay with the
>>>> >     concept and
>>>> >     > system design part, and that's about it
>>>> >     >
>>>> >     > >
>>>> >     > > >
>>>> >     > >
>>>> >     > > The tutorial seemed to be about a template language for
>>>> natural
>>>> >     > > language interfaces while the overview seemed to go more into
>>>> the
>>>> >     > > actual processing logic. Do you know if AIML captures AI
>>>> logic and
>>>> >     > > what use cases would motivate favoring such a standard for
>>>> Semantic
>>>> >     > > Web work?
>>>> >     > >
>>>> >     >
>>>> >     > No, guess not but not sure. AIML seems very very thin at the
>>>> moment,
>>>> >     > although there is a free working prototype online which seems to
>>>> >     be using it
>>>> >     > https://home.pandorabots.com/ en/
>>>> <https://home.pandorabots.com/en/> <https://home.pandorabots.com/ en/
>>>> <https://home.pandorabots.com/en/>>
>>>> >     >
>>>> >     > I think there's work to be done-
>>>> >     >
>>>> >     > >
>>>> >     > >
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