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Re: rdf.stackexchange.com -- Identity problems numbers 3 and 5 - was Re: Toward easier RDF: a proposal

From: Antoine Zimmermann <antoine.zimmermann@emse.fr>
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 16:30:35 +0100
To: Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>, Hugh Glaser <hugh@glasers.org>
Cc: David Booth <david@dbooth.org>, semantic-web <semantic-web@w3.org>
Message-ID: <c9a9e28d-8b64-b252-7ed0-21c903a42a89@emse.fr>
FWIW, in Oct. 2009, a certain Andrew Matthews created a web site for Q&A 
on semantic web technologies, called Semantic Overflow 
(semanticoverflow.com). The software used on this site was Stack 
Exchange 1.0. It was good, it was fresh, it was lively.

A little later, Stack Exchange launched Area 51. I seem to recall that 
someone tried to get a Stack Exchange instance on semantic web topics 
via Area 51 in circa 2010, but it never flew up.

In the meantime, in 2011, Semantic Overflow was acquired by a company 
called semanticweb.com (now Dataversity). semanticoverflow.com ceased to 
work and redirected to answers.semanticweb.com. This new site was not 
using the Stack Exchange engine. The software in place there really 
sucked in comparison to SE. Slowly but surely, users of 
stackoverflow.com went away from the site, using Stack Overflow more and 
more instead. Quality on answers.semanticweb.com went down the floor and 
the site finally shut down.

When answers.semanticeb.com was in terminal stage (yet not clinically 
dead) in ~2015, someone proposed a new semantic web Stack Exchange site 
on Area 51. This one neither got the critical mass required to launch 
the site for real. It was deleted.

I find that a Q&A site on semweb tech is missing but I'm not optimistic 
that it will happen on Stack Exchange anytime soon.

Of course, you can use Stack Overflow for some technical questions on 
semweb tech, you can use Open Data Stack Exchange for some Linked Open 
Data questions, you can use Data Science Stack Exchange for some data 
analysis questions, you can use Artificial Intelligence SE for questions 
on KR & reasoning, etc.

But you cannot use Stack Overflow for all legitimate semantic web 
questions. You cannot use Open Data SE for all semantic web questions.

Consider for example the question "What are the success stories of the 
Semantic Web/Linked Data?" asked on 22nd August 2010 on Semantic 
Overflow. I'd say it is a legitimate semantic web question, but 
according to Stack Overflow's policy, it would probably get closed 
there. And it does not relate to open data, so it should be closed too 
on Open Data SE.

I extracted a few questions from the late answers.semanticweb.com, that 
most likely would not last on SO if they were asked there:


I would like to see a place where those questions can be asked and 
answered and stay.


Le 07/12/2018 à 16:18, Henry Story a écrit :
>> On 7 Dec 2018, at 15:08, Hugh Glaser <hugh@glasers.org 
>> <mailto:hugh@glasers.org>> wrote:
>> I know this was not the intention of the discussion participants, but 
>> that is certainly a reasonable view to take away.
>> Maybe this is the wrong forum - is there somewhere else where I would 
>> get help?
> Perhaps the trick for more pragmatic answers would be to open
>     {rdf/semweb}.stackexchange.com <http://stackexchange.com>
> StackExchange is helpful because it forces people to ask a question 
> clearly,
> and then once the answers are given and voted on, one does not need to
> answer them again.
> https://stackexchange.com/sites#
> A discussion forum such as this one tends to always reopen issues 
> because it is more
> difficult to link to previous answers and there may just be too many of 
> them.
> Henry
> I have found math.stackexchange.com <http://math.stackexchange.com> very 
> useful, and actually posted a semweb
> question on cstheory.stackexchange.com <http://cstheory.stackexchange.com>
> https://cstheory.stackexchange.com/questions/41578/what-does-the-category-of-rdf-models-look-like-in-institution-theory/41613

Antoine Zimmermann
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