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Re: Toward easier RDF: a proposal

From: Andy Seaborne <andy@seaborne.org>
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 11:52:37 +0000
To: semantic-web@w3.org
Message-ID: <602f2dbf-75c1-0f76-ca6c-7937354b463d@seaborne.org>


On 10/12/2018 10:43, Michael Brunnbauer wrote:
> 
> hi
> 
> I really think this is an issue where we might be losing lots of people:
> 
> "Oh nice, I got a result - now let's get more info about this blank node.
>   What? I have to repeat the original query? This is sick!"

Out of curiosity, are there systems that do change the internal blank 
node identifiers other than when re-reading documents?

     Andy

 >
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Michael Brunnbauer
> 
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 11:34:11AM +0100, Michael Brunnbauer wrote:
>>
>> Hello David,
>>
>> I'd really like to see mandatory persistent blank node identifiers in
>> SPARQL - so I can easily do followup queries for blank nodes from a SPARQL
>> result. Is this a big deal? I think some triples stores can already do this.
>> Which issue do I upvote to get this?
>>
>> cu,
>> brunni
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 09, 2018 at 11:56:16PM -0500, David Booth wrote:
>>> Thanks to Dave Raggett's help, we have created a github area for this work
>>> on making RDF easier to use:
>>> https://github.com/w3c/EasierRDF
>>>
>>> I have transferred all of the notes that I collected from the google doc
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12cPE-oi90bd
>>> e1phn0H0_tJQzYAJ7gD1mQl13H0Lo694/edit#
>>> which is now obsolete.  I have created corresponding issues on the issues
>>> list:
>>> https://github.com/w3c/EasierRDF/issues
>>> I have also added labels to the issues in order to categorize them, using
>>> the following labels:
>>>
>>>    big ideas: for major ideas that span multiple issue categories
>>>    tools: for RDF tools
>>>    education: for documentation and education
>>>    usage: for issues around RDF usage in practice
>>>    language features: for language features of RDF itself
>>>    related standards: for RDF-related standards
>>>
>>> These categories might change if we figure out a better way to organize the
>>> topics.  Please send suggestions or make pull requests if you have ideas for
>>> better organizing them.
>>>
>>> CALL TO ACTION:
>>>
>>> Please vote on ~3-5 issues that you think are most important to address for
>>> making RDF easier to use:
>>> https://github.com/w3c/EasierRDF/issues
>>> How to upvote an issue:
>>> https://github.com/MechWarriorOnline/issue-tracker/wiki/How-To-Upvote-An-Issue
>>>
>>> Further ideas and suggestions are invited!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> David Booth
>>
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