AW: sameAs.org

Hi Andy,

Thanks for joining in, and for providing all these pointers.

I consider sameAs.org and Wikidata as both on its own useful, and complementary, services. 

sameAs.org collects links in a very broad and automated fashion. Wikidata can be used as a _curated_ hub for creating and maintaining links _by humans_. In that, Wikidata is also different from http://viaf.org, which provides a "justlinks" service for clusters of library authority ids, but is liable to cluster drift due to the automated construction of its clusters.

You postulate that (perhaps in the future) "all of sameAs' functionality can be provided by Wikidata". Besides I suppose that there will always be more information "in the wild" than can be maintained intellectually - is Wikidata ready to accept all this mapping data?

I know that Wikidata provides more than 1000 different properties for authorities of all kinds (and counting). But I wonder if Wikidata's notability criteria (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Notability) prohibits to use it as a linking hub for less famous people, institutions etc.

To give an example: I suppose that it would be not considered ok if I would add a Wikidata item just to connect my ORCID (http://orcid.org/0000-0002-8086-185X), my GND (http://d-nb.info/gnd/1019110708) and perhaps my Google Scholar (http://scholar.google.de/citations?user=Ba4-kfkAAAAJ) identities. The Wikidata policy says " The entity must be notable, in the sense that it can be described using serious and publicly available references. If there is no item about you yet, you are probably not notable." 

Well - that's true for me, but also for many economists who have identities in GND and in RePEc, and could be connected by Wikidata as an universal and accessible linking hub (http://zbw.eu/labs/en/economists-in-wikidata-opportunities-of-authority-linking). 

So - how is the Wikidata Notability Policy interpreted by the community re. authority linking?

Cheers, Joachim

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: pigsotwing@gmail.com [mailto:pigsotwing@gmail.com] Im Auftrag von
> Andy Mabbett
> Gesendet: Freitag, 3. Februar 2017 12:26
> An: semantic-web@w3.org
> Betreff: Re: sameAs.org
> 
> > Do you ever use sameAs.org?
> 
> [First post - hello, everyone!]
> 
> I hadn't seen sameAs before, but it looks useful, and I will do in future.
> 
> That said:
> 
> 1) It doest seem to know about Wikidata. For example, given
> 
>       https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q42

> 
>       (or https://www.wikidata.org/enity/Q42 )
> 
> it doesn't return anything other than the input; and given:
> 
>     http://sameas.org/html?uri=http://viaf.org/viaf/113230702

> 
> it doesn't include the above Wikidata item in the values returned.
> 
> 2) It may be that all of sameAs' functionality can be provided by Wikidata, now
> or in the future. This may be done indirectly - see, for example
> 
>     https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/resolver.php

> 
> as explained at
> 
>     http://pigsonthewing.org.uk/finding-orcid-wikidata-wikipedia/

> 
> and
> 
>      https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/beacon.php

> 
> as explained at
> 
>       http://pigsonthewing.org.uk/wikidata-beacon-match-orcid-authority-

> control-identifiers/
> 
> 3) You may have data that is not yet in Wikidata. It would be good to look at
> how this could be imported there.
> 
> 4) Similarly, you are welcome - and encouraged - to use Wikidata's API and/or
> dumps; it has a CC0 licence.
> 
> --
> Andy Mabbett
> @pigsonthewing
> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

Received on Wednesday, 8 February 2017 09:00:50 UTC