- From: Jun Zhao <jun.zhao@zoo.ox.ac.uk>
- Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 09:39:14 +0100
- To: semantic-web@w3.org, Daniel Garijo <dgarijo@delicias.dia.fi.upm.es>
FWIW, the WG is also working on a DC to PROV mapping note [1]. This is still a working draft. We would appreciate any further feedback from the DC community before we publish it. [1] https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/ff940ee82d3d/dc-note/Overview.html Cheers, Jun On 08/08/2012 15:33, Antoine Zimmermann wrote: > DC does not intend to be compatible with OWL DL and its properties are > made to be flexible enough to be used with literals or URIs. However, I > like to consider DC properties as AnnotationProperties, and it seems > they are used as such by many people. Even in the OWL specifications, DC > properties are shown as typical examples of AnnotationProperties. > Protégé 4 includes declaration of AnnotationProperties for some DC terms > by default. There are even two modified DC ontologies available where > all properties are declared as AnnotationProperties [1,2], which can be > used to "safely" import all the DC terms into a strictly OWL DL > ontology. These modified ontologies are compatible with OWL (1/2) DL. > > Nevertheless, in this particular case, I'd say it makes sense to use an > ObjectProperty instead, as it is core to the knowledge model of WikiData > and a source is always identified by a URI. AnnotationProperties should > be left for the things that are auxiliary to the domain being modelled. > > > [1] DC terms in OWL DL. > http://protege.stanford.edu/plugins/owl/dc/terms.owl > [2] DC terms in OWL 2 DL. http://purl.org/NET/dc_owl2dl/terms > > > Best, > AZ > > Le 08/08/2012 15:55, Markus Krötzsch a écrit : >> On 08/08/12 14:28, Bob Ferris wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> btw how about dct:source [1] or dct:publisher [2] as source (is derived >>> from) property? >> >> Correct me if I am wrong, but I think prov has better OWL compatibility >> by declaring the type of its property (object vs. data). DC says that >> its properties are "intended to be used with non-literal values" but I >> am not sure if this is supposed to be a declaration as an object >> property or not. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Markus >> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> >>> Bo >>> >>> >>> [1] http://purl.org/dc/terms/source >>> [2] http://purl.org/dc/terms/publisher >>> >>> On 08/08/2012 02:33 PM, Denny Vrandečić wrote: >>>> Hi Jun, >>>> >>>> almost perfect! prov:hadPrimarySource is a tiny bit too strong (it >>>> requires that source is from first-hand direct experience etc.), >>>> whereas its superproperty prov:wasDerivedFrom is a bit too weak, but >>>> can be used here. >>>> >>>> So if there was a prov:hadSource between these two, I would gladly use >>>> it, not having the strong requirements for the source. >>>> Otherwise I will settle for prov:wasDerivedFrom for now. >>>> >>>> Thank you again, that helped a lot! >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Denny >>>> >>>> >>>> 2012/8/8 Jun Zhao <jun.zhao@zoo.ox.ac.uk>: >>>>> Hi Denny, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 08/08/2012 13:05, Denny Vrandečić wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Every statement has an IRI. And the source will also have an IRI >>>>>> describing it (i.e. an IRI for the statistical yearbook, an IRI for >>>>>> the mentioned paper). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> By this, do you really specially asking for a property to express >>>>> that a >>>>> statement about an entity is derived from a certain primary source? >>>>> >>>>> How about the http://www.w3.org/TR/prov-o/#hadPrimarySource? >>>>> >>>>> Note that there are some renaming going on around this property. If >>>>> you want >>>>> to use more than the above property, such as prov:source or >>>>> prov:qualifiedSource, then please ping us before you do so. >>>>> >>>>> HTH, >>>>> >>>>> Jun >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> What I did not figure out is: which property from the provenance >>>>>> ontology can I use to connect the statement IRI to the source IRI? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Jun Zhao, PhD >>>>> EPSRC Postdoctoral Fellow >>>>> Department of Zoology >>>>> University of Oxford >>>>> Tinbergen Building, South Parks Road >>>>> Oxford, OX1 3PS, UK >>> >>> >> >> > -- Jun Zhao, PhD EPSRC Postdoctoral Fellow Department of Zoology University of Oxford Tinbergen Building, South Parks Road Oxford, OX1 3PS, UK
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