- From: Danny Ayers <danny.ayers@gmail.com>
- Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 01:07:47 +0200
- To: "Hogan, Aidan" <aidan.hogan@deri.org>
- Cc: semantic-web@w3.org, Alejandro Mallea <janoma@gmail.com>
The one thing I don't really understand - CONSTRUCT { ?x a h:Paper> } FROM { <#questionnaire> r:first ... ... r:rest ... ?x h:interestingBecause ?y } On 19 June 2011 00:50, Hogan, Aidan <aidan.hogan@deri.org> wrote: > Hi Danny, > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Danny Ayers [mailto:danny.ayers@gmail.com] >> Sent: 18 June 2011 23:21 >> >> <:John> <:telephone> _:b1 and <:John> <:telephone> _:b2. >> >> correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't it also be >> >> _:b1 :number "123" . >> _:b2 :number "123" . > > ...suffice it to say: > > :yourQuestion :hasAnswer _:answer1 . > :yourQuestion :hasAnswer _:answer2 . > > Regards, > Aidan > >> >> On 18 June 2011 20:56, Hogan, Aidan <aidan.hogan@deri.org> wrote: >> > Thanks to everybody who has participated in the poll so far. >> > >> > We would again prefer people who have not answered the poll (but who >> > intend to) to please fill it in *before* reading on. >> > >> > Link to Poll: http://db.ing.puc.cl/amallea/blank-nodes-poll >> > >> > Thanks! >> > >> > ... >> > >> > David, Jonathan, >> > >> > We thank you for your feedback, but we explicitly requested that the >> > email was not to be replied to on-list: >> > >> > """to avoid influencing responses, we would strongly prefer if >> > this email is not replied to on-list. If you want to leave feedback, >> > please do so in the space provided in the poll, or reply directly to >> > Alejandro (CC'ed on this mail) and Aidan".""" >> > >> > This was a simple request. >> > >> > Of course, it's a public mailing list, and you're free to respond if you >> > feel the need. Again however, we would *strongly prefer* if feedback is >> > given in the space provided or emailed directly to us off-list. >> > >> > We are now in a difficult position. Since the concerns have been made >> > on-list, we now feel that we need to address them, in kind, on-list: >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Jonathan Rees [mailto:jar@creativecommons.org] >> >> Sent: 18 June 2011 02:59 >> >> >> >> Your set of answers for question 1 does not include the one specified >> >> by RDF semantics. >> >> >> >> Namely, that John has a telephone number (which we may or may not >> > know). >> >> >> >> So, if one's wishes and intent are to follow the recommendation (whose >> >> purpose, of course, is to enable mutual intelligibility), there is no >> >> way to answer. >> >> >> > >> > @Jonathan, you are of course correct in terms of how blank-nodes should >> > be interpreted according to RDF Semantics. But, that's explicitly what >> > the poll is *not* asking about. At the top of the poll (and in the >> > original email), we state: >> > >> > """Note that the poll is trying to determine what you intend >> > when you publish blank nodes. It is not a quiz on RDF Semantics. There >> > is no correct answer.""" >> > >> > Your proposed option: >> > >> > "John has a telephone number (which we may or may not know)" >> > >> > is, of course, formally correct in terms of *interpretation* when >> > consuming the data, but is not meaningful as an *intent* when >> > publishing. In reality, publishers do not say to themselves "I may or >> > may not know the value of X, therefore I shall publish this as a >> > blank-node". >> > >> > Purely in terms of concrete publishing *intent*, we firmly believe that >> > for our question, our option: >> > >> > "John has a telephone number, but we don't know the number." >> > >> > makes more sense, speaking directly to the question we want answered. >> > You may or may not agree, but please try to see this from our point of >> > view. >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: David Booth [mailto:david@dbooth.org] >> >> Sent: 18 June 2011 03:46 >> >> >> >> And, quite annoyingly: (a) the server refuses to show the poll again >> > if >> >> it thinks you have already submitted an answer; and (b) it seems to >> >> think that everyone in the same local area network is the same person! >> >> >> >> David >> > >> > @David, apologies. The poll is based on Drupal and filters multiple >> > responses based on IP addresses. We'll look into making the poll >> > viewable to people who have already responded (thanks for doing so). As >> > for the LAN issue, we're not sure if we can do anything there. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Aidan and Alejandro >> > >> > [1] http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/d/donaldrums148142.html >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> http://danny.ayers.name > -- http://danny.ayers.name
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