- From: Hogan, Aidan <aidan.hogan@deri.org>
- Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 23:50:31 +0100
- To: "Danny Ayers" <danny.ayers@gmail.com>
- Cc: <semantic-web@w3.org>, "Alejandro Mallea" <janoma@gmail.com>
Hi Danny, > -----Original Message----- > From: Danny Ayers [mailto:danny.ayers@gmail.com] > Sent: 18 June 2011 23:21 > > <:John> <:telephone> _:b1 and <:John> <:telephone> _:b2. > > correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't it also be > > _:b1 :number "123" . > _:b2 :number "123" . ...suffice it to say: :yourQuestion :hasAnswer _:answer1 . :yourQuestion :hasAnswer _:answer2 . Regards, Aidan > > On 18 June 2011 20:56, Hogan, Aidan <aidan.hogan@deri.org> wrote: > > Thanks to everybody who has participated in the poll so far. > > > > We would again prefer people who have not answered the poll (but who > > intend to) to please fill it in *before* reading on. > > > > Link to Poll: http://db.ing.puc.cl/amallea/blank-nodes-poll > > > > Thanks! > > > > ... > > > > David, Jonathan, > > > > We thank you for your feedback, but we explicitly requested that the > > email was not to be replied to on-list: > > > > """to avoid influencing responses, we would strongly prefer if > > this email is not replied to on-list. If you want to leave feedback, > > please do so in the space provided in the poll, or reply directly to > > Alejandro (CC'ed on this mail) and Aidan".""" > > > > This was a simple request. > > > > Of course, it's a public mailing list, and you're free to respond if you > > feel the need. Again however, we would *strongly prefer* if feedback is > > given in the space provided or emailed directly to us off-list. > > > > We are now in a difficult position. Since the concerns have been made > > on-list, we now feel that we need to address them, in kind, on-list: > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Jonathan Rees [mailto:jar@creativecommons.org] > >> Sent: 18 June 2011 02:59 > >> > >> Your set of answers for question 1 does not include the one specified > >> by RDF semantics. > >> > >> Namely, that John has a telephone number (which we may or may not > > know). > >> > >> So, if one's wishes and intent are to follow the recommendation (whose > >> purpose, of course, is to enable mutual intelligibility), there is no > >> way to answer. > >> > > > > @Jonathan, you are of course correct in terms of how blank-nodes should > > be interpreted according to RDF Semantics. But, that's explicitly what > > the poll is *not* asking about. At the top of the poll (and in the > > original email), we state: > > > > """Note that the poll is trying to determine what you intend > > when you publish blank nodes. It is not a quiz on RDF Semantics. There > > is no correct answer.""" > > > > Your proposed option: > > > > "John has a telephone number (which we may or may not know)" > > > > is, of course, formally correct in terms of *interpretation* when > > consuming the data, but is not meaningful as an *intent* when > > publishing. In reality, publishers do not say to themselves "I may or > > may not know the value of X, therefore I shall publish this as a > > blank-node". > > > > Purely in terms of concrete publishing *intent*, we firmly believe that > > for our question, our option: > > > > "John has a telephone number, but we don't know the number." > > > > makes more sense, speaking directly to the question we want answered. > > You may or may not agree, but please try to see this from our point of > > view. > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: David Booth [mailto:david@dbooth.org] > >> Sent: 18 June 2011 03:46 > >> > >> And, quite annoyingly: (a) the server refuses to show the poll again > > if > >> it thinks you have already submitted an answer; and (b) it seems to > >> think that everyone in the same local area network is the same person! > >> > >> David > > > > @David, apologies. The poll is based on Drupal and filters multiple > > responses based on IP addresses. We'll look into making the poll > > viewable to people who have already responded (thanks for doing so). As > > for the LAN issue, we're not sure if we can do anything there. > > > > Cheers, > > Aidan and Alejandro > > > > [1] http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/d/donaldrums148142.html > > > > > > > > > > -- > http://danny.ayers.name
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