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Re: An RDF wishlist

From: John Erickson <olyerickson@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 10:46:45 -0400
Message-ID: <AANLkTil8yZ8BMAlN4IYm1yF7g9FTWjiwhQL2TflNcd78@mail.gmail.com>
To: Karl Dubost <karl+w3c@la-grange.net>, Linked Data community <public-lod@w3.org>, Semantic Web <semantic-web@w3.org>
Karl asks, "...How does one start hacking?"

Although this might be politically incorrect advice, Toby Segarin's
O'Reilly book "Programming the Semantic Web" (2009) (use The
Google...) is a very accessible introduction. Two caveats: Python
based (which for some of us is a selling point!) and there are a few
places in the book where the editing is crap and misses critical lines
of example code; you can readily figure these out by *understanding*
what is going on. One or a few examples in particular leaves out key
conneg code, ugh. Note that there is good online code now via Toby's
site, I didn't use it when I went through it last year...


On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Karl Dubost <karl+w3c@la-grange.net> wrote:
> Dan,
> I would like to add a very simple one in the list of annoyances:
> Le 1 juil. 2010 à 04:46, Dan Brickley a écrit :
>> Some reasons why RDF is annoying and hard (a mildly ordered list):
> [… cut list of annoyances …]
> * community building by hacking:
> The RDF community is pretty much a community of hackers and quite open.
> But for a beginner, it is always super hard to have answers (leads) to
> start hacking for very simple data. FOAF is often used in many documents
> as a "Hello world" example. But I'm not sure it is always the good
> example. Outsiders have more basic questions for hacking.
> Many people do not want to solve big problems of large data sets. They
> want to hack on their own data in a very practical and *visible* way.
> aka to get people adding a bit of data, they need to have direct
> benefits. It doesn't need to be perfect either. :)
> It's often super hard for a beginner to know how to write a few rules.
> Hacking simple data will help leverage the knowledge of RDF.
> # some practical examples (but there are plenty more)
> * My travel schedule:
>  * how do I put (very simple) rdfa markup in an html page
>    to describe my trips?
>  * How do I associate a (java)script with it so it can
>    show a map (Google, OpenStreetMap) of places I went in
>    the same page.
>  * How do I add automatically create a timeline in the same
>    page?
> * My Own DVD
>  * how do I put (very simple) rdfa markup in an html page
>    to describe my dvd list?
>  * How do I extract data from imdb to relate the page?
>    and makes it displayable in the page. Example, director names
>    for free.
>  * How do I connect it with a blog post where I have written
>    a review? (title of the blog post and first paragraph appears)
>    in the list.
> * Diary "Ontology"
>  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-lod/2010Jun/0195
> (thousands of examples more)
> How people can start hacking?
> --
> Karl Dubost
> Montréal, QC, Canada
> http://www.la-grange.net/karl/

John S. Erickson, Ph.D.
Twitter: @olyerickson
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