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Re: call to arms

From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 07:09:49 +0200
Cc: Ian Davis <me@iandavis.com>, Karl Dubost <karl+w3c@la-grange.net>, Danny Ayers <danny.ayers@gmail.com>, Semantic Web <semantic-web@w3.org>
Message-Id: <57087D32-EC61-4F83-AE2F-C3D769BDA6D7@w3.org>
To: paoladimaio10@googlemail.com

On Apr 1, 2010, at 14:10 , Paola Di Maio wrote:

> Ivan
> I have looked at a couple of the cases , and it seems to me a very good starting point
> quite a lot there

Thanks you in the name of all the contributors. I am just a go-between:-)

> 
> They do not all seem to have the UML use case diagram associated with it though, but that doesnt really matter per se
> 
> some thoughts:
> 
> 1. is there a way the authors of these case studies can be invited to join the SWUIG mailing list
> (in case there are some follow up discussions)

For the sad reasons of spams we decided not to add the email address of the contributors on the web, but I do have all of them. If there are particular use cases where this is relevant, I am happy to share the email address with you and you can invite them. 

I am not 100% sure that this would be relevant for all use cases, though. Semantic Web technologies are often used behind the scenes, so to say, as part of the back end (typical example is BT's use case). That is why I think you should look at them first.

Ivan


> 
> 2. to make sure the interface satisfies the user requirement (as opposed to the user requirements as presupposed by the developer) a
> task analysis would be useful , this would have to be done by the authors of the case studies, in conjunction with users and some usability
> person (developers are generally not good at seeing the system from the user perspective)
> 
> http://www.usabilitynet.org/tools/taskanalysis.htm
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> 3. to issue guidelines for researchers to make sure use requirements,  usability standards and suitable interfaces should be prioritized
> and developed in parallel with other aspects of the 'infrastructure'
> 
> 4. I am sure I dont have to say this, but users should be found among a wider and heterogeneous stakholder pool, so it would be a question
> of the respective researchers to establish a network of stakeholders and users among their target communities referred to in the repsective case studies
> 
> 
> Happy to contribute to this side of the sw effort if I can, a DERI MSc student contacted me offliest may be able to 
> help lead this effort, will ping you her details separately
> 
> 
> PDM
> 
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> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 5:16 AM, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote:
> Additionally to Nodalities...
> 
> A fairly long time ago we started a collection of SW Use Cases and Case Studies at W3C:
> 
> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/public/UseCases/
> 
> the goal was to collect real SW deployment examples in industry and academia (ie, not reports on university projects). It is not perfect, it is not complete, but it is a start. W3C decided _not_ to 'edit' those entries but, with minor modifications, take what is out there which also explains the different style and, frankly, quality of the submissions.
> 
> It is true that, in the last year, the number of submissions slowed down which may be my fault; I do chase applications but it is difficult to get people do the extra mile to write things down and sometimes I give up. But improving, enriching, etc, this collection would be good and any help would be greatly welcome....
> 
> Ivan
> 
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> On Apr 1, 2010, at 03:25 , Ian Davis wrote:
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> > On Tuesday, March 30, 2010, Karl Dubost <karl+w3c@la-grange.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Danny has been one of the most convincing evangelist for years. We need more.
> >> ACTION: Tell a story to people.
> >>
> >
> > We (Talis) are doing this with Nodalities magazine, blogs and
> > podcasts, reaching out beyond the technologists. If you have stories
> > we want to help you get them known - free distribution for your ideas,
> > software, products, services or whatever. The only cost is the time it
> > takes you to write a couple of pages or to chat to us over skype. Just
> > email us at nodalities-magazine@talis.com
> >
> > Remember no-one on this mailing list is a target for evangelism: we're
> > all convinced already! None of us are really target users for this
> > stuff either because we're much more interested in the architecture
> > and technology. We need to share stories and evangelise much wider to
> > the people who decide what technologies their organisations should
> > invest in.
> >
> > Ian
> >
> 
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