Re: web to semantic web : an automated approach

Dear Ravinder,

You are spot on in saying that quite a few data owners won't feel any incentive to have their data made SW compatible if no monetary or other gain is to be made.

And I also share the idea that we cannot wait. In the email I sent off to Google I actually made reference to tag-templates and not tags as an extra heuristic set to be included in the search algorithms.

I would like to know if there is anyone out there willing to look at the idea of creating a new search engine, that does what Google does, but includes semantic web filters?

Google can also be customized for languages, how about customizing for specific tags and semantic web structure formats?

I am a mathematician by training and would love to accept the challenge of creating a new search engine which is customizable semantic web enabled..

After all, anyone who knows the origin of Google, may believe it is possible to create something new if Google no longer fits the bill.

The same simple line of reasoning Page and Brin had when they built the prototype, was, "Build it and they (the guys with money) will come (to our door).'

But the project will have to be OPEN SOURCE with OPEN LICENSE approach, and preferably have support from popular browsers.

Anyone up to the challenge?

Milton Ponson
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--- On Mon, 10/20/08, रविंदर ठा <ravinderthakur@gmail.com> wrote:
From: रविंदर ठा <ravinderthakur@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: web to semantic web : an automated approach
To: metadataportals@yahoo.com
Cc: "Semantic Web" <semantic-web@w3.org>, semantic_web@googlegroups.com, "Andreas Langegger" <al@jku.at>
Date: Monday, October 20, 2008, 2:44 PM

>>>>What sort of stuff does a linked-data space enable? What sorts of

>>>>things can you _do_ with a linked data graph that you couldn't do



>>>>before? 

A lot depends upon the kind of data we have. Assuming we have the
requisite data i would expect best system to give answers to queries
like "world population in 1968" as  3.5 billion and not something like this (the current best system). How good and confident a system is which says he has found 489,000  matches
for a simple one word question like this. The reason for this is the
underlying architecture used to process the data. Unless that
architecture is moved form a word analysis based system(pagerank etc)
to one based on meaning (SW) there isn't much scope to improve.





>>>>Where are the real, working, non-hypothetical applications I


>>>>can play with now that use say the linked-open-data space?. 

There isn't any real semantic web application that i know of. Please do let me know if anyone knows one.





>>>>How do we get people excited enough about these things to invest the time in

>>>>
making their data assets available in this way on the web? These are


>>>>the questions I personally need help with. 

The point is data owners wont be doing it unless they find some
monetary benefit in this. One or two might share, but there will always
be a bigger proportion that wont be sharing their data. But the point
is why should we wait for others to share their data. Why not create
our own semantic data ? If the approach of convincing people to share their data is not working why not take the other one or even better why not use both the approaches. We only stand to gain with these approaches.