- From: Dudley Mills <dudley.mills@bigpond.com>
- Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:45:34 +1100
- To: <semantic-web@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <000501c85c7f$5905bf50$0100000a@Varanusprisca>
Andrea, I hope it might be helpful to you to read a little about what patents are. I would hope that your work with BOOTStrep might give rise to important Intellectual Property which demonstrates its value by being commercially exploitable. Links: http://www.ipaustralia.gov.au/patents/what_index.shtml http://www.epo.org/patents/Grant-procedure/About-patents.html >> I anticipated the extraction of contact, classification and >> geographic semantic data from web pages and its incorporation in >> searchable databases. > > Can a patent cover something like this ? > a "database" is almost "searchable" by definition. For the rest, what > does it mean ? That I if I make a script that fetch and store > geografic information from web pages, this is illegal ? No matter > that I made it even without ever by far having heard if the patent, > or any tools developed on it ? > I guess your patent covers some specific technology, algorithm, or > software... Pantents not only can cover that sort of thing but my patents have been granted and do cover it. Novel combinations form an important aspect of patentability. As Renato (I think) said, I may have not been the first to think of this technology but a diligent search has failed to reveal any documentary or other physical evidence of such thought before I filed my patent application (1999/Feb/21), and thus, at least, I was the first to document, by means of a patent, the technique. Extracting and storing geographic location information would infringe (be illegal) my patents in the jurisdiction in which the patents are in force, which is the USA only. You do not need to know of the patents to infringe them. Usually non-commercial infringement is ignored, however, the person who supplied tools to allow to infringement can be considered a contributary infringer in some jurisdictions. >> I agree that the concept of semantic data is very old and I feel it >> is well past the time that the concept should have had substantial >> commercial importance on the internet. > Yes, but commercial value comes with real value. You what are you > bringing to the people ? If it is something they already have, looks > more like you are taking away something. In the end the marketplace decides what is valuable. I know of no commercially significant application currently in use. I'd like to be shown to be wrong on that. The value of the patents at the moment is prospective; to provide protection to the investment that would be made. >> Fair criticism if I had the fire that you espouse but I am >> retired. If Google or Microsoft want the patents, I'd consider >> those to be good homes. > > I would be curious to know which would be the bad ones. The simplistic answer is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_troll The more sophisticated answer is that there are shades of troll and that trolls have a useful function in the Intellectual Property "ecology". >> Years ago I asked W3C if they had any use for the patents (donated >> free). They suggested I setup (yet) another working group. If free >> does not do the job, I'll try not-free. > > I have the feeling that the only one one could make money with these > kind of patents is sue other people unaware of them The patents have been on public record since being granted. No need for anyone to be surprised. http://www.uspto.gov/patft/index.html
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