Re: Fwd: Dojinshi & Accessibility was: A new Semantic Web logo?

Doug,

yes, fill opacity is probably better for the reasons you cite. I will
change that, and upload the files to the server...

Ivan

Doug Schepers wrote:
> Hi, Ivan-
> 
> Ivan Herman wrote (on 10/13/2007 4:59 AM):
>>
>> You are right with the silly humans:-): Adding a title and a desc is
>> indeed another (and simpler) solution. Indeed, adding both is even
>> better.
> 
> I still think that adding RDF would improve it.  The <title> and <desc>
> elements are relatively unstructured, and RDF could be used by a
> different processor to maximize the semantics.  In particular, specific
> copyright information conveys far more than the (R) ever could.
> 
> 
>> However... Sorry to disappoint again with the Mozilla implementation,
>> but it seems that your hack does not work either:-( I attach the screen
>> dump of my Mozilla window. What does seem to work, however, is to set
>> the text to visibility="hidden", instead of playing with the opacity
>> value...
> 
> Doh!  That will teach me to monkey with a file (without re-testing)
> before I send it.  Indeed, it doesn't work with just 'opacity' (I'll
> report that bug); it does work with 'fill-opacity', though.  This is a
> better solution than 'visibility', because while Firefox doesn't let you
> select SVG text anyway, both Opera and ASV do... but not if you muck
> with the 'visibility' or 'display' properties; 'opacity' (while more
> computationally expensive) still puts it in the rendering tree, thus
> making it selectable.
> 
> Please find the corrected version attached.
> 
> I took the liberty of changing the file structure a bit, cleaning up
> some unused nesting levels of <g> elements, and reordering the
> glyph-shapes to match the visual order ('W3C' first, 'Semantic Web'
> second).  I grouped the individual <text> elements with their respective
> shapes (not necessary, but tidy), and added an 'id' for each shape with
> its character value (again, just a nicety, but might help if you decide
> to later use the shape when making an SVG Font).  I also put a
> <metadata> element in the (R) group, which I thought would be a clever
> place to put RDF relating to the copyright. :D
> 
> I'm sure that we all agree it behooves the W3C to demonstrate best
> practices whenever possible, and this is probably the most semantic logo
> possible, given current technology. :)  The only improvement I can think
> of would be to have a description of the box in the box group, either in
> <title> or <desc> elements (rather than just 'id' values), or in a
> metadata format.  But... I mean... there's only so far...
> 
> Regards-
> -Doug Schepers
> W3C Staff Contact, SVG, CDF, and WebAPI

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