Re: Semantic Web Statement Contexts (was: Can there be a URI for the concepts "I", "you",...)

In order to illustrate how contexts can be used,
I'd like to outline how it's done in MKR/MKE.
Your English example
    John Black said to Sandro Hawke, "I comprehend you."
can be paraphrased as follows in MKR
    at space=internet, time=now, view=instant messaging {
        John Black do say to Sandro Hawke od
            {I do comprehend od you done;} done;
    };

"say" and "comprehend" are actions, which have a context
of space,time,view.  The overall context/view is "instant messaging".
The subcontext/view of "say" is "John Black_say".
This subcontext is created by MKE when it
encounters the action "say".  Within this subcontext,
the pronoun "I" is defined to be the speaker (the subject of "say"),
and the pronoun "you" is defined to be the hearer (the object of "to").

In the current version of MKE, the subcontext
"John Black_say" is created automatically, but the
 identities of "I" and "you" are not determined automatically.

Dick McCullough
knowledge := man do identify od existent done;
knowledge haspart proposition list;
http://rhm.cdepot.net/
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sandro Hawke" <sandro@w3.org>
To: "John Black" <JohnBlack@kashori.com>
Cc: "Joshua Tauberer" <jt@occams.info>; <semantic-web@w3.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: Semantic Web Statement Contexts (was: Can there be a URI for 
the concepts "I", "you",...)


>
>
>> > This probably isn't the best way to design any real system, though.
>>
>> Why not? This sounds to me like the context of Instant Messaging IM, or 
>> text
>> messaging on a cell phone. I can imagine use cases where two cell phones 
>> are
>> set up to exchange data, one phone to another phone.
>>
>> I've added a new StatementContext individual to my ontology: 
>> "IMtoSandro".
>> This is a very narrow and specific context.
>>
>>     @prefix contexts < http://www.kashori.com/ontology/contexts.owl# > .
>>     @prefix ex < http://example.com# > .
>>
>>     contexts:IMtoSandro
>>           a       contexts:StatementContext ;
>>           contexts:heardByHearer  contexts:SandroHawke ;
>>           contexts:messageRepeatability  "1"^^xsd:int ;
>>           contexts:utteredBySpeaker   contexts:JohnBlack .
>>
>> But within this context I can efficiently state, say in acknowledgement
>> of your previous data sent:
>>
>>     contexts:IMtoSandro {
>>         _:I     ex:comprehend    _:you .
>>     }
>>
>> In this context, http://www.kashori.com/ontology/contexts.owl#IMtoSandro
>> it is understood that the message cannot meaningfully be repeated more 
>> than
>> once. But other contexts could be defined that are closer to that of web
>> page
>> publication.
>
> I'm not saying this wouldn't work -- I haven't tried to think it through
> carefully -- but it just seems like an awkward approach, like it's more
> complex than necessary.  When you have a technology in search of a
> problem to solve, in fairness you should probably compare it to other
> approaches to solving that problem.  (I can't really tell what user
> problem you might be trying to solve here.)
>
>    -- Sandro
>
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