- From: Michael Dyck <jmdyck@ibiblio.org>
- Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 12:28:15 -0500
- To: public-xsl-query@w3.org
On 17-01-06 09:34 AM, Andrew Coleman wrote: > DRAFT XML Query/XSL WG Joint Teleconference #664 Agenda 2017-01-10 > > > Andy will chair this meeting. > > PLEASE SEND CORRECTIONS AND ADDITIONS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO A REVISED > AGENDA CAN BE PREPARED IN A TIMELY MANNER! > > Changes in this agenda: None. > This week, I'd like us to work on the following items: > J4.2 (F&O) > J4.6 (Test suite) > J5 (Progression) > Q2.1 (Update 3.0) > Q2.2 (Update 3.0 Req & UC) > > > Key: > J = Joint Query/XSLT meeting; > Q = Query-only meeting > > > Teleconference connection details > --------------------------------- > > (Member only) > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2015Sep/0014.html > > > > SUMMARY OF DECISIONS > ==================== > Note to secretary: Please insert a summary of all decisions made during > this teleconference at this location in the minutes. > > Decisions MUST be clear as to their complete intent. The subject of the > decision should *not* require dereferencing; it is most helpful if > agenda numbers and bug numbers are accompanied by their titles. If a > decision is recorded about the resolution of a bug, the decision must > state exactly what the resolution is (e.g., "Accept the solution in > comment #5", or "Replace the production for XXX with this: <new > production>", or the like. It should be possible to read a decision > months later and be certain what it meant and whether or not it was > properly applied. DECISION: Bug 30041 ([FO31] year-from-date() with negative years) is editorial. DECISION: Resolve Bug 30039 (Schema substitution.xsd depends on XSD 1.0) as indicated in comment 2. DECISION: Voted unanimously to progress the current suite of docs to PR. DECISION: Voted unanimously to publish "XQuery Update 3.0" and "XQuery Update Facility 3.0 Requirements and Use Cases" as WG Notes. DECISION: Re Bug 30017 (UpdatingFunctionCall use of PrimaryExpr makes the grammar ambiguous): resolve it as Works For Me. > NEW ACTION ITEMS > ================ > Note to secretary: Please insert all new action items assigned during > this teleconference at this location in the minutes. > > Action items MUST make sense even when they are viewed standalone (that > is, not read in the context of the agenda item where they were > assigned). This explicitly requires that all referents (e.g., "this", > "that") be made clear. Action items such as "Ralph to resolve this > problem" are DISALLOWED. It takes a scribe only a few additional > minutes to ensure that action items are clear, while it takes the entire > WG considerable effort to constantly research the meaning of unclear > action items. The subject of the action item should *not* require > dereferencing; it is most helpful if agenda numbers and bug numbers are > accompanied by their titles. ACTION A-664-01: O'Neil to resolve Bug 30038 (Test prod-AxisStep / cbcl-path-nodes-and-atomics) as suggested in comment 0. ACTION A-664-02: O'Neil to resolve Bug 30039 (Schema substitution.xsd depends on XSD 1.0) as indicated in comment 2. ACTION A-664-03: Andy to make the necessary transition and publication requests to progress the current suite of docs to PR. ACTION A-664-04: Andy to update status and submit pub requests for Update3.0 (both spec and Req+UC). > =================================================== > Joint XML Query Working Group and XSL Working Group > =================================================== > > > J1. Administrative Items > > J1.1 Selection of secretary(s) > > Michael Dyck has been asked to take the minutes. Abel has been asked to > stand by. Michael scribed. > NOTE: The chair will confirm the secretary prior to the start of the > meeting. > > > Most recent secretaries (least-recent participants first): > ---------------------------------------------------------- > (This list identifies the most recent three occasions when each > participant acted as Secretary for the Task Force. The person whose > name is at the top of the list should plan to take the minutes at the > meeting identified by this agenda; if that person is unavailable, then > the job will fall to the next person on the list, etc. > > Abel Braaksma - 2016-10-18, 2016-06-28 > Liam Quin - 2016-10-25, 2016-09-13, 2016-05-03 > Josh Spiegel - 2016-11-01, 2016-07-19, 2016-03-15 > Jonathan Robie - 2016-11-08, 2016-07-05, 2016-04-12 > Mike Kay - 2016-11-15, 2016-07-26, 2016-04-26 > O'Neil Delpratt - 2016-11-29, 2016-09-06, 2016-04-19 > Michael Sprbrg-McQn - 2016-12-06, 2016-09-27, 2016-06-07 > Michael Dyck - 2017-01-10, 2016-10-04, 2016-06-14 > > > > J1.2 Call the Roll -- NOT DONE DURING TELECONFERENCE > > Note to secretary: During the meeting, take a note of the Webex > participants, then list in the minutes those present and those who sent > regrets. All others will be presumed to have been absent without regrets. > > > XML Query WG membership list: > http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=18797&order=org > > XSL WG membership list: > http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=19552&order=org Andy Coleman C. M. Sperberg-McQueen Jonathan Robie Josh Spiegel Liam Quin Michael Dyck Michael Kay O'Neil Delpratt > Regrets: None. > J1.3 Approval of agenda > > J1.3.1 Additions, deletions, or corrections? None. > J1.4 Review of recent minutes and administrative items > > J1.4.1 Minutes of meeting #663 (Michael Sperberg-McQueen) > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Dec/0026.html No changes. > J1.5 Review of action items > > NOTE: Please be prepared to respond quickly on your action items! > > J1.5.1 Outstanding action items > > > ACTION A-657-12: ABr to create more tests for fn:transform, as he describes > in bug 29834 > > Status: Pending; ETA 2016-11-26 > > > ACTION A-661-04 (Bug 29997) AB to fix up the dependencies on the > fn:transform tests and if appropriate resubmit results. > > Status: Pending; ETA not specified. > > > ACTION A-661-06 (Bug 29949) OND to decide which approach to take and do it. > Alternatives suggested include (a) adding a (rather specialized dependency) > for these tests, or (b) dropping the tests, or (c) alternative results. > > Status: Pending; ETA 2016-12-13 New ETA: 2017-01-17 > ACTION A-662-04: MikeKay to investigate bug 29932 > > Status: Pending; ETA not specified. No progress. ETA: 2017-01-31 > ACTION A-663-02: MK to respond to original commentor (Thomas Fischer) > w.r.t. our decision on bug 30025 "[F+O3.1] array:join() - misleading > name" (WORKSFORME). > > Status: Pending; ETA not specified. ETA: 2017-01-17 > ACTION A-663-03: MK to respond to original commentor w.r.t. our > decision on bug 30024 "[F+O 3.1] Is map:entry superfluous?" (FIXED). > > Status: Pending; ETA not specified. ETA: 2017-01-17 > ACTION A-663-04: MK to address test suite bug 30023 [qt3ts] > fn-transform-err-9a (which he may already have fixed). > > Status: Pending; ETA not specified. ETA: 2017-01-31 > J1.5.2 Completed action items > > > ACTION A-658-07 Liam to review MIME type registration for XQuery 3.1 > > Status: Closed; There were two changes, both of which Josh has done. > > > ACTION A-661-09 (Bug 29959 ¿ fn:put) JR: Amend XQ 3.1 requirements (changing > the status of this requirement). (And while there under 2.4.4 collations, > there is a misreference to fn:put()). > > Status: Closed; See > https://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/requirements/xquery-31/html/ > > > ACTION A-661-10 (Bug 29959 ¿ fn:put) JR: In the XQuery 3.1 spec, get rid of > the optional fn:put() feature > > Status: Closed; > > > ACTION A-662-01: Josh and Jonathan to review the XQuery 3.1 changes relating > to the introduction and abstract. > > Status: Closed; > > > ACTION A-662-02: MikeKay to make change proposed in comment 11 of Bug 29951. > > Status: Closed; See > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29951#c14 > > > ACTION A-662-03: MikeKay to make the change mentioned in comment 2 of the > Bug 29789 - to add note to FO spec. > > Status: Closed; See > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29789#c4 > > > ACTION A-662-05: O¿Neil/Mike to propose a way to version the QT3 test suite > and Generate white list. > > Status: Closed; See > https://dev.w3.org/2011/QT3-test-suite/ReportingResults31/report.html > > > ACTION A-663-05: Andy Coleman to make the appropriate transition > request. > > Status: Closed; See > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2016OctDec/0110.html > > > ACTION A-663-06: Andy Coleman to stage the documents and make a > publication request (assuming a favorable result from the director's > call). > > Status: Closed; See > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2016Dec/0002.html > > > ACTION A-663-07: Andy Coleman to stage the document and make the > publication request. > > Status: Closed; See > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2016Dec/0002.html > > > > J1.6 Update on related activities > > J1.6.1 Update on XSLT WG activities (Sharon, MikeK) Nearing Candidate Rec. > J1.6.2 Update on EXPath/EXQuery CG activities (Mike) > > > > J1.7 Future Meetings > > J1.7.1 QT Meeting Schedule > > [V47] Joint XML Query/XSL WG meeting schedule > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2016Dec/0003.html > > > > J1.7.2 Future F2F Meetings > > J1.7.2.1 Other future F2F meetings > > (none) > > > J2. Documents For Review > > (none) > > > > J3. Maintenance Issues > > J3.0 The XML Query WG and XSLT WG do not intend to maintains specs > earlier than the 3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches > Recommendation, maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated. > > This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other problems > reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) suite of specifications. > > > J3.0.1 Concerns raised by the XSLT working group in regards to potential > completion delays of XSLT 3.0 if XPath 3.0 is made obsoleted by 3.1 > > Status: Pending the outcome of Abel's review of 3.0 bugs/errata. > Any change to the status of the 3.0 specs requires explicit XSL WG > consultation. > > > J3.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of joint XML Query WG and > XSLT WG documents > > (none) > > > > J4. Active Specification Development > > > ** Note: Full Text 3.1 has been removed from the WG agenda. > If, in the future, there is sufficient interest (i.e. at least two > independent participants to develop the spec and implementations), > then this can be brought back on the agenda. > > > > J4.1 Data Model 3.1 (Andy) > > J4.1.0 Internal working draft > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview.html > > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview-diff.html > > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/src/changes.txt > > > (none) > > > J4.2 Functions and Operators 3.1 (Mike Kay) > > J4.2.0 Internal working draft > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview.html > > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview-diff.html > > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/src/changes.txt > > > > J4.2.1 Bug 30041 - [FO31] year-from-date() with negative years > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=30041 > > Status: Ready to discuss MKay reviews bug. CMSM: This turns a grey area into a clear area. It does not break anything that was conformant before. It's editorial. DECISION: it's editorial. > J4.3 Serialization 3.1 (Michael Sperberg-McQueen, Andy) > > J4.3.0 Internal working draft > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview.html > > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview-diff.html > > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/src/changes.txt > > > (none) > > > J4.4 XPath 3.1 (Jonathan) > > J4.4.0 Internal working draft > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31.html > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31-diff.html > > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt > > (none) > > > J4.5 Grammar Test Applets (Michael Dyck) > > (none) > > > J4.6 QT3 test suite (O'Neil) > > J4.6.1 Status report on test suite, harness, tools Recent bugs: Bug 30038 - Test prod-AxisStep / cbcl-path-nodes-and-atomics https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=30038 MKay: It's minor. ACTION A-664-01: O'Neil to resolve the bug as suggested in comment 0. --- Bug 30039 - Schema substitution.xsd depends on XSD 1.0 https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=30039 MKay: Quite complex. DECISION: Resolve the bug as indicated in comment 2. ACTION A-664-02: O'Neil to do so. > J4.6.2 Status of 3.1 tests results > > Status: Currently five implementers submitted results > > > > J5. Progression of Work > > J5.1 XQuery 3.1, XQueryX 3.1, XPath 3.1, XDM 3.1, F&O 3.1, Serialization 3.1 > > J5.1.1 Current status > > * In Candidate Recommendation > > * Potential coordination of dates with XSLT 3.0 > > > J5.1.2 Dependencies inhibiting progression > > * Awaiting end of revised CR period; 10 January 2017 > > * PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request > > * REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request > > > J5.1.3 Vote to progress to PR > > Status: WG agreed to progress DECISION: The WG unanimously agreed to progress the suite of docs to PR. ACTION A-664-03: Andy to make the necessary transition and publication requests to progress the current suite of docs to PR. > J5.2 Update 3.0 > > J5.2.1 Current Status > > * In Last Call Working Draft > > At XML Prague, Liam talked to a few people about XQuery Update but found no > great enthusiasm for doing the work. We cannot progress without plansfor a > test suite and potential implementers. > The WG needs to decide what to do with this spec. > > Status: Ready to discuss JRobie: I don't think the WG has resources to promise to take it to Rec. I would like to see it published as Note. MKay: No motivation to finish. Liam: We could post on the mailing list, separate from minutes, in case someone says "Oh Dear, I really want this spec", but that's unlikely. DECISION: Vote unanimously to publish "XQuery Update 3.0" as WG Note. DECISION: Vote unanimously to publish "XQuery Update Facility 3.0 Requirements and Use Cases" as WG Note. ACTION A-664-04: Andy to update status and submit pub requests. > J5.2.2 Require owner of XQUF 3.0 Test Suite > > > J5.2.3 Dependencies inhibiting progression > > * CR Transition Request and authorization, CR pub request > > * Completion of test suite minimum-required-to-declare-victory > > * Sufficient implementation experience and reports thereof > > * Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters > > * PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request > > * REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request > > > J5.3 XQuery 3.1 Requirements and Use Cases > > J5.3.1 Current Status > > * Working Group Node > > > > J6. Any other business > > J6.1 Consideration of future work > > J6.1.1 QT 3.2 > > The WGs decided that we will finish the 3.1 documents presently under way, > but undertake no new work. Maintenance work should be planned upon fora > period of time after finishing the specifications. > > > J6.1.2 FT 3.1 > > Currently inadequate interest and resources > > > J6.1.3 Update 3.1 > > Currently inadequate interest and resources > > > > J7. Adjourn > > > > > ======================= > XML Query Working Group > ======================= > > Q1. The XML Query WG does not intend to maintains specs earlier than the > 3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches Recommendation, > maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated. > > Q1.0 This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other > problems reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) XML Query WG suite of > specifications. > > > Q1.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of XML Query WG documents > > (none) > > > > Q2. Active Specification Development > > Q2.1 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 (John) > > Q2.1.0 Internal working draft > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html > > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview-diff.html > > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/src/changes.txt > > > * The WG needs to obtain implementation experience with this document. > > > Q2.1.1 Bug 30017 - UpdatingFunctionCall use of PrimaryExpr makes the grammar > ambiguous > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=30017 > > Status: Ready to discuss DECISION: Resolve it as Works For Me. > Q2.2 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 Requirements and Use Cases (Andy) > See > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/requirements/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html > > > * The WGs need to be certain that this document is completed > (red/yellow/green bullets on requirements, all the use cases intended to > be published) and a decision made to advance it to WG Note. > > > Q2.3 XQuery 3.1 (Jonathan) > > Q2.3.0 Internal working draft > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31.html > > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31-diff.html > > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt > > (none) > > > Q2.4 XQueryX 3.1 (Josh) > > Q2.4.0 Internal working draft > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview.html > > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview-diff.html > > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/src/changes.txt > > (none) > > > Q3. Test Suite Development > > Q3.1 Update Facility 3.0 Test Suite (????) > > * Need test suite developer/manager > > * Need tests > > > > Q4. Any other business > > > > Q5. Adjourn > > > > > Unless stated otherwise above: > IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number > 741598. > Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO63AU
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