- From: Josh Spiegel <josh.spiegel@oracle.com>
- Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 09:04:48 -0700 (PDT)
- To: Andrew Coleman <andrew_coleman@uk.ibm.com>
- Cc: public-xsl-query@w3.org
- Message-ID: <32D421F4-53AD-4261-BF3A-B8E3B2543867@oracle.com>
Andy, Please add bug 29868 to the agenda. Thanks, Josh > On Sep 23, 2016, at 7:00 AM, Andrew Coleman <andrew_coleman@uk.ibm.com> wrote: > > DRAFT XML Query/XSL WG Joint Teleconference #655 Agenda 2016-09-27 > > > Andy will chair this meeting. > > PLEASE SEND CORRECTIONS AND ADDITIONS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO A REVISED > AGENDA CAN BE PREPARED IN A TIMELY MANNER! > > Changes in this agenda: > > > > This week, I'd like us to work on the following items: > J4.2 (F&O) > J4.4 (XPath) > J4.6 (Test suite) > Q2.4 (XQueryX) > > > Key: > J = Joint Query/XSLT meeting; > Q = Query-only meeting > > > Teleconference connection details > --------------------------------- > > (Member only) > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2015Sep/0014.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2015Sep/0014.html> > > > > SUMMARY OF DECISIONS > ==================== > Note to secretary: Please insert a summary of all decisions made during > this teleconference at this location in the minutes. > > Decisions MUST be clear as to their complete intent. The subject of the > decision should *not* require dereferencing; it is most helpful if > agenda numbers and bug numbers are accompanied by their titles. If a > decision is recorded about the resolution of a bug, the decision must > state exactly what the resolution is (e.g., "Accept the solution in > comment #5", or "Replace the production for XXX with this: <new > production>", or the like. It should be possible to read a decision > months later and be certain what it meant and whether or not it was > properly applied. > > > NEW ACTION ITEMS > ================ > Note to secretary: Please insert all new action items assigned during > this teleconference at this location in the minutes. > > Action items MUST make sense even when they are viewed standalone (that > is, not read in the context of the agenda item where they were > assigned). This explicitly requires that all referents (e.g., "this", > "that") be made clear. Action items such as "Ralph to resolve this > problem" are DISALLOWED. It takes a scribe only a few additional > minutes to ensure that action items are clear, while it takes the entire > WG considerable effort to constantly research the meaning of unclear > action items. The subject of the action item should *not* require > dereferencing; it is most helpful if agenda numbers and bug numbers are > accompanied by their titles. > > > > =================================================== > Joint XML Query Working Group and XSL Working Group > =================================================== > > > J1. Administrative Items > > J1.1 Selection of secretary(s) > > Michael Sperberg-McQueen has been asked to take the minutes. Michael Dyck has been asked to stand by. > > > NOTE: The chair will confirm the secretary prior to the start of the > meeting. > > > Most recent secretaries (least-recent participants first): > ---------------------------------------------------------- > (This list identifies the most recent three occasions when each > participant acted as Secretary for the Task Force. The person whose > name is at the top of the list should plan to take the minutes at the > meeting identified by this agenda; if that person is unavailable, then > the job will fall to the next person on the list, etc. > > Michael Sprbrg-McQn - 2016-06-07, 2016-02-09, 2015-10-03 > Michael Dyck - 2016-06-14, 2016-03-08, 2015-11-17 > Abel Braaksma - 2016-06-28 > Jonathan Robie - 2016-07-05, 2016-04-12, 2016-01-05 > Josh Spiegel - 2016-07-19, 2016-03-15, 2015-12-01 > Mike Kay - 2016-07-26, 2016-04-26, 2016-03-01 > O'Neil Delpratt - 2016-09-06, 2016-04-19, 2016-02-02 > Liam Quin - 2016-09-13, 2016-05-03, 2016-01-19 > Tim Mills - 2016-09-20, 2016-05-10, 2016-03-22 > > > > J1.2 Call the Roll -- NOT DONE DURING TELECONFERENCE > > Note to secretary: During the meeting, take a note of the Webex > participants, then list in the minutes those present and those who sent > regrets. All others will be presumed to have been absent without regrets. > > > XML Query WG membership list: > http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=18797&order=org <http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=18797&order=org> > > XSL WG membership list: > http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=19552&order=org <http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=19552&order=org> > > > Regrets: > > > > > J1.3 Approval of agenda > > J1.3.1 Additions, deletions, or corrections? > > > > J1.4 Review of recent minutes and administrative items > > J1.4.1 Minutes of meeting #654 (Tim) > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Sep/0021.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Sep/0021.html> > > > J1.5 Review of action items > > NOTE: Please be prepared to respond quickly on your action items! > > J1.5.1 Outstanding action items > > > ACTION A-654-01: Abel to commit changes to CVS for fn:transform tests. > > Status: Pending; ETA not specified. > > > ACTION A-654-07: Josh to investigate duplicated elements in XQueryX (Bug > 29823). > > Status: Pending; ETA not specified. > > > ACTION A-654-08: Josh to review Bug 29789 with respect to latest F&O > updates. > > Status: Pending; ETA not specified. > > > ACTION A-654-09: Tim to fix test suite bug 29833. > > Status: Pending; ETA not specified. > > > ACTION A-654-11: Jonathan, Michael Kay, Abel, Tim, Michael > Sperberg-McQueen and Andy to review assigned specifications. > > Status: Pending; ETA 2016-10-11 > > > > J1.5.2 Completed action items > > > ACTION A-649-04: Abel to report test results. > > Status: Closed; See > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Sep/0020.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Sep/0020.html> > > > ACTION A-650-08: Action on Abel to implement fn:transform > > Status: Closed; See > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Sep/0019.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Sep/0019.html> > > > ACTION A-653-01: Mike to implement change in bug 29765 comment 5 for > width modifier in formatting the year component > > Status: Closed; See > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29765#c7 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29765#c7> > > > ACTION A-653-02: Mike to implement bug 29785 comment 6, modified by "the > outcome of validation..." > > Status: Closed; See > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29785#c8 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29785#c8> > > > ACTION A-653-03 Mike to fix typo pointed out in 29722 on fn:sort, > array:sort > > Status: Closed; See > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29722#c12 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29722#c12> > > > ACTION A-654-02: Mike Kay to propose a response to behaviour of > fn:transform with for XSLT processor version (Bug 29830). > > Status: Closed; See > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29830#c1 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29830#c1> > > > ACTION A-654-03: Mike Kay to propose a response to behaviour of > fn:transform with serialization (Bug 29831). > > Status: Closed; See > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29831#c1 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29831#c1> > > > ACTION A-654-04: Mike Kay to propose a response to request for > additional options to fn:transform (Bug 29832). > > Status: Closed; See > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29832#c1 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29832#c1> > > > ACTION A-654-05: Andy to change text "An instance of xs:string or > xs:untypedAtomic" to include xs:anyURI (Bug 29822) in SER31. > > Status: Closed; See > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Sep/0022.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Sep/0022.html> > > > ACTION A-654-06: Andy to specify the properties of the decimal format to > use when serializing xs;double to ensure it is in the lexical space of > xs:double (Bug 29824). > > Status: Closed; See > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Sep/0022.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Sep/0022.html> > > > ACTION A-654-10: O'Neil to fix test suite Bug 29781. > > Status: Closed; See > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Sep/0023.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Sep/0023.html> > > > > J1.6 Update on related activities > > J1.6.1 Update on XSLT WG activities (Sharon, MikeK) > > > > J1.6.2 Update on EXPath/EXQuery CG activities (Mike) > > > > J1.7 Future Meetings > > J1.7.1 QT Meeting Schedule > > [V45] Joint XML Query/XSL WG meeting schedule > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2016Jul/0003.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2016Jul/0003.html> > > > > J1.7.2 Future F2F Meetings > > J1.7.2.1 Other future F2F meetings > > (none) > > > J2. Documents For Review > > (none) > > > > J3. Maintenance Issues > > J3.0 The XML Query WG and XSLT WG do not intend to maintains specs > earlier than the 3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches > Recommendation, maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated. > > This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other problems > reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) suite of specifications. > > > J3.0.1 Concerns raised by the XSLT working group in regards to potential > completion delays of XSLT 3.0 if XPath 3.0 is made obsoleted by 3.1 > > Status: Pending the outcome of Abel's review of 3.0 bugs/errata. > Any change to the status of the 3.0 specs requires explicit XSL WG > consultation. > > > J3.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of joint XML Query WG and > XSLT WG documents > > (none) > > > > J4. Active Specification Development > > > ** Note: Full Text 3.1 has been removed from the WG agenda. > If, in the future, there is sufficient interest (i.e. at least two > independent participants to develop the spec and implementations), > then this can be brought back on the agenda. > > > > J4.1 Data Model 3.1 (Norm) > > J4.1.0 Internal working draft > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview-diff.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/src/changes.txt> > > (none) > > > J4.2 Functions and Operators 3.1 (Mike Kay) > > J4.2.0 Internal working draft > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview-diff.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/src/changes.txt> > > > 4.2.1 [FO31] Unclear what happens w.r.t. backwards / forwards > compatibility in fn:transform > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29830 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29830> > > Status: Ready to discuss; See proposal in comment #1 > > > J4.2.2 [FO31] fn:transform and serialization to string > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29831 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29831> > > Status: Ready to discuss; See comments #1 & #2 > > > J4.2.3 [FO31] fn:transform options > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29832 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29832> > > Status: Ready to discuss; See proposal in comment #1 > > > J4.2.4 Bug 29850 - [FO31] Functions having the "same signature" > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29850 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29850> > > Status: Ready to discuss > > > J4.2.5 Bug 29855 - [FO31] Non-capturing subexpressions > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29855 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29855> > > Status: Ready to discuss > > > J4.2.6 Bug 29856 - [FO31] Operations on gYear, gYearMonth, etc > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29856 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29856> > > Status: Ready to discuss > > > J4.2.7 Bug 29853 - [FO31] fn:collation-key() does not depend on implicit-timezone > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29853 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29853> > > Status: Ready to discuss > > > J4.2.8 Bug 29857 - [FO31] Uniqueness scope for generate-id() > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29857 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29857> > > Status: Ready to discuss > > > J4.2.9 Bug 29863 - [FO31] Is there a constructor function for xs:numeric? > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29863 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29863> > > Status: Ready to discuss > > > J4.2.10 Bug 29864 - [FO31] Incorrect example of format-number() with exponent separator > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29864 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29864> > > Status: Ready to discuss > > > J4.2.11 Bug 29865 - [FO31] UCA collation in substring matching > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29865 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29865> > > Status: Ready to discuss > > > > J4.3 Serialization 3.1 (Michael Sperberg-McQueen, Andy) > > J4.3.0 Internal working draft > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview-diff.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/src/changes.txt> > > (none) > > > J4.4 XPath 3.1 (Jonathan) > > J4.4.0 Internal working draft > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31-diff.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt> > > > J4.4.1 Bug 29858 - [XP31] Named Function References - context information > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29858 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29858> > > Status: Ready to discuss > > > > J4.5 Grammar Test Applets (Michael Dyck) > > (none) > > > J4.6 QT3 test suite (O'Neil) > > J4.6.1 Status report on test suite, harness, tools > > > J4.6.2 Status of 3.1 tests results > > Status: Currently three implementers submitted results > > > > J5. Progression of Work > > J5.1 XSLT 3.0, XQuery 3.1, XQueryX 3.1, XPath 3.1, XDM 3.1, F&O 3.1, > Serialization 3.1 > > J5.1.1 Current status > > * In Candidate Recommendation; awaiting implementation reports > > * Potential coordination of dates with XSLT 3.0 > > > J5.1.2 Dependencies inhibiting progression > > * Sufficient implementation experience and reports thereof > > * Detailed review of specifications by WG > > Participant assigned to each document for detailed review > - XDM 3.1 - Jonathan > - XPath 3.1 - Mike Kay > - F&O 3.1 - Abel > - Serialization 3.1 - Tim > - XQuery 3.1 - Michael Sperberg-McQueen > - XQueryX 3.1 - Andy > > > * Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters > > * PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request > > * REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request > > > > J5.2 Update 3.0 > > J5.2.1 Current Status > > * In Last Call Working Draft > > At XML Prague, Liam talked to a few people about XQuery Update but found no great enthusiasm for doing the work. We cannot progress without plans for a test suite and potential implementers. The WG needs to decide what to do with this spec. > > Status: Ready to discuss > > > > J5.2.2 Require owner of XQUF 3.0 Test Suite > > > J5.2.3 Dependencies inhibiting progression > > * CR Transition Request and authorization, CR pub request > > * Completion of test suite minimum-required-to-declare-victory > > * Sufficient implementation experience and reports thereof > > * Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters > > * PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request > > * REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request > > > > J6. Any other business > > J6.1 Consideration of future work > > J6.1.1 QT 3.2 > > The WGs decided that we will finish the 3.1 documents presently under way, > but undertake no new work. Maintenance work should be planned upon for a > period of time after finishing the specifications. > > > J6.1.2 FT 3.1 > > Currently inadequate interest and resources > > > J6.1.3 Update 3.1 > > Currently inadequate interest and resources > > > > J7. Adjourn > > > > > ======================= > XML Query Working Group > ======================= > > Q1. The XML Query WG does not intend to maintains specs earlier than the > 3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches Recommendation, > maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated. > > Q1.0 This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other > problems reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) XML Query WG suite of > specifications. > > > Q1.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of XML Query WG documents > > (none) > > > > Q2. Active Specification Development > > Q2.1 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 (John) > > Q2.1.0 Internal working draft > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview-diff.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/src/changes.txt> > > * The WG needs to obtain implementation experience with this document. > > > Q2.2 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 Requirements and Use Cases (Andy) > See > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/requirements/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/requirements/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html> > > * The WGs need to be certain that this document is completed > (red/yellow/green bullets on requirements, all the use cases intended to > be published) and a decision made to advance it to WG Note. > > > Q2.3 XQuery 3.1 (Jonathan) > > Q2.3.0 Internal working draft > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31-diff.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt> > > (none) > > > Q2.4 XQueryX 3.1 (Josh) > > Q2.4.0 Internal working draft > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview-diff.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/src/changes.txt> > > > Q2.4.1 Bug 29823 - [XQX31] Duplicated elements > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29823 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29823> > > Status: Ready to discuss > > > > Q3. Test Suite Development > > Q3.1 Update Facility 3.0 Test Suite (????) > > * Need test suite developer/manager > > * Need tests > > > > Q4. Any other business > > > > Q5. Adjourn > > > > Unless stated otherwise above: > IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. > Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU
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