- From: Tim Mills <tim@cbcl.co.uk>
- Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 17:37:55 +0100
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MINUTES XML Query/XSL WG Joint Teleconference #654 Agenda 2016-09-20
Andy will chair this meeting.
PLEASE SEND CORRECTIONS AND ADDITIONS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO A REVISED
AGENDA CAN BE PREPARED IN A TIMELY MANNER!
Changes in this agenda:
This week, I'd like us to work on the following items:
J4.3 (Serialization)
J4.6 (Test suite)
Q2.4 (XQueryX)
Key:
J = Joint Query/XSLT meeting;
Q = Query-only meeting
Teleconference connection details
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(Member only)
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2015Sep/0014.html
SUMMARY OF DECISIONS
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Note to secretary: Please insert a summary of all decisions made during
this teleconference at this location in the minutes.
Decisions MUST be clear as to their complete intent. The subject of the
decision should *not* require dereferencing; it is most helpful if
agenda numbers and bug numbers are accompanied by their titles. If a
decision is recorded about the resolution of a bug, the decision must
state exactly what the resolution is (e.g., "Accept the solution in
comment #5", or "Replace the production for XXX with this: <new
production>", or the like. It should be possible to read a decision
months later and be certain what it meant and whether or not it was
properly applied.
DECISION: Accept proposal to treat xs:anyURI as per xs:untypedAtomic
and xs:string.
DECISION: Specify the decimal format to use when serializing xs:double
to ensure it is in the lexical space of xs:double.
NEW ACTION ITEMS
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Note to secretary: Please insert all new action items assigned during
this teleconference at this location in the minutes.
Action items MUST make sense even when they are viewed standalone (that
is, not read in the context of the agenda item where they were
assigned). This explicitly requires that all referents (e.g., "this",
"that") be made clear. Action items such as "Ralph to resolve this
problem" are DISALLOWED. It takes a scribe only a few additional
minutes to ensure that action items are clear, while it takes the entire
WG considerable effort to constantly research the meaning of unclear
action items. The subject of the action item should *not* require
dereferencing; it is most helpful if agenda numbers and bug numbers are
accompanied by their titles.
ACTION A-654-01: Abel to commit changes to CVS for fn:transform tests.
ACTION A-654-02: Mike Kay to propose a response to behaviour of
fn:transform with for XSLT processor version (Bug 29830).
ACTION A-654-03: Mike Kay to propose a response to behaviour of
fn:transform with serialization (Bug 29831).
ACTION A-654-04: Mike Kay to propose a response to request for
additional options to fn:transform (Bug 29832).
ACTION A-654-05: Andy to change text "An instance of xs:string or
xs:untypedAtomic" to include xs:anyURI (Bug 29822) in SER31.
ACTION A-654-06: Andy to specify the properties of the decimal format to
use when serializing xs;double to ensure it is in the lexical space of
xs:double (Bug 29824).
ACTION A-654-07: Josh to investigate duplicated elements in XQueryX (Bug
29823).
ACTION A-654-08: Josh to review Bug 29789 with respect to latest F&O
updates.
ACTION A-654-09: Tim to fix test suite bug 29833.
ACTION A-654-10: O'Neil to fix test suite Bug 29781.
ACTION A-654-11: Jonathan, Michael Kay, Abel, Tim, Michael
Sperber-McQueen and Andy to review assigned specifications. ETA 2016-10-11
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Joint XML Query Working Group and XSL Working Group
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J1. Administrative Items
J1.1 Selection of secretary(s)
Tim has been asked to take the minutes. John has been asked to stand by.
NOTE: The chair will confirm the secretary prior to the start of the
meeting.
Most recent secretaries (least-recent participants first):
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(This list identifies the most recent three occasions when each
participant acted as Secretary for the Task Force. The person whose
name is at the top of the list should plan to take the minutes at the
meeting identified by this agenda; if that person is unavailable, then
the job will fall to the next person on the list, etc.
John Snelson - 2016-05-24, 2016-01-12, 2015-07-16
Michael Sprbrg-McQn - 2016-06-07, 2016-02-09, 2015-10-03
Michael Dyck - 2016-06-14, 2016-03-08, 2015-11-17
Adam Retter - 2016-06-21, 2016-01-26, 2015-10-20
Abel Braaksma - 2016-06-28
Jonathan Robie - 2016-07-05, 2016-04-12, 2016-01-05
Josh Spiegel - 2016-07-19, 2016-03-15, 2015-12-01
Mike Kay - 2016-07-26, 2016-04-26, 2016-03-01
O'Neil Delpratt - 2016-09-06, 2016-04-19, 2016-02-02
Liam Quin - 2016-09-13, 2016-05-03, 2016-01-19
Tim Mills - 2016-09-20, 2016-05-10, 2016-03-22
J1.2 Call the Roll -- NOT DONE DURING TELECONFERENCE
Note to secretary: During the meeting, take a note of the Webex
participants, then list in the minutes those present and those who sent
regrets. All others will be presumed to have been absent without regrets.
XML Query WG membership list:
http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=18797&order=org
XSL WG membership list:
http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=19552&order=org
Abel Braxma
Andy Coleman
O'Neil Delpratt
Michael Dyck
Tim Mills
Michael Kay
Jonathan Robie
Michael Sperberg-McQueen
Josh Spiegel
Regrets:
Liam Quin
J1.3 Approval of agenda
J1.3.1 Additions, deletions, or corrections?
J1.4 Review of recent minutes and administrative items
J1.4.1 Minutes of meeting #653 (Liam)
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Sep/0013.html
ACCEPTED.
J1.5 Review of action items
NOTE: Please be prepared to respond quickly on your action items!
J1.5.1 Outstanding action items
ACTION A-649-04: Abel to report test results.
Status: CLOSED.
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Sep/0020.html
ACTION A-650-08: Action on Abel to implement fn:transform
Status: CLOSED.
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Sep/0019.html
ACTION A-653-01: Mike to implement change in bug 29765 comment 5 for
width modifier in formatting the year component
Status: Pending; ETA 2016-09-27
ACTION A-653-02: Mike to implement bug 29785 comment 6, modified by "the
outcome of validation..."
Status: Pending; ETA 2016-09-27
ACTION A-653-03 Mike to fix typo pointed out in 29722 on fn:sort,
array:sort
Status: Pending; ETA 2016-09-27
J1.5.2 Completed action items
J1.6 Update on related activities
J1.6.1 Update on XSLT WG activities (Sharon, MikeK)
No meeting last week.
J1.6.2 Update on EXPath/EXQuery CG activities (Mike)
Nothing to report.
J1.7 Future Meetings
J1.7.1 QT Meeting Schedule
[V45] Joint XML Query/XSL WG meeting schedule
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2016Jul/0003.html
J1.7.2 Future F2F Meetings
J1.7.2.1 Other future F2F meetings
(none)
J2. Documents For Review
(none)
J3. Maintenance Issues
J3.0 The XML Query WG and XSLT WG do not intend to maintains specs
earlier than the 3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches
Recommendation, maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated.
This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other problems
reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) suite of specifications.
J3.0.1 Concerns raised by the XSLT working group in regards to potential
completion delays of XSLT 3.0 if XPath 3.0 is made obsoleted by 3.1
Status: Pending the outcome of Abel's review of 3.0 bugs/errata.
Any change to the status of the 3.0 specs requires explicit XSL WG
consultation.
J3.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of joint XML Query WG and
XSLT WG documents
(none)
J4. Active Specification Development
** Note: Full Text 3.1 has been removed from the WG agenda.
If, in the future, there is sufficient interest (i.e. at least two
independent participants to develop the spec and implementations),
then this can be brought back on the agenda.
J4.1 Data Model 3.1 (Norm)
J4.1.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/src/changes.txt
(none)
J4.2 Functions and Operators 3.1 (Mike Kay)
J4.2.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/src/changes.txt
(none)
J4.2.1 [FO31] Unclear what happens w.r.t. backwards / forwards
compatibility in fn:transform
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29830
ACTION A-654-02: Mike Kay to propose a response to behaviour of
fn:transform with for XSLT processor version (Bug 29830).
J4.2.2 [FO31] fn:transform and serialization to string
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29831
ACTION A-654-03: Mike Kay to propose a response to behaviour of
fn:transform with serialization (Bug 29831).
J4.2.3 [FO31] fn:transform options
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29832
ACTION A-654-04: Mike Kay to propose a response to request for
additional options to fn:transform (Bug 29832).
J4.3 Serialization 3.1 (Michael Sperberg-McQueen, Andy)
J4.3.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/src/changes.txt
J4.3.1 Bug 29822 - [SER31] Adaptive output method, xs:anyURI
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29822
DECISION: Accept proposal to treat xs:anyURI as per xs:untypedAtomic
and xs:string.
ACTION A-654-05: Andy to change text "An instance of xs:string or
xs:untypedAtomic" to include xs:anyURI (Bug 29822) in SER31.
J4.3.2 Bug 29824 - [SER31] Adaptive output method, xs:double
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29824
DECISION: Specify the decimal format to use when serializing xs:double
to ensure it is in the lexical space of xs:double.
ACTION A-654-06: Andy to specify the properties of the decimal format to
use when serializing xs;double to ensure it is in the lexical space of
xs:double (Bug 29824).
J4.4 XPath 3.1 (Jonathan)
J4.4.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt
(none)
J4.5 Grammar Test Applets (Michael Dyck)
(none)
J4.6 QT3 test suite (O'Neil)
J4.6.1 Status report on test suite, harness, tools
J4.6.2 Status of 3.1 tests results
Status: Currently three implementers submitted results
J5. Progression of Work
J5.1 XSLT 3.0, XQuery 3.1, XQueryX 3.1, XPath 3.1, XDM 3.1, F&O 3.1,
Serialization 3.1
J5.1.1 Current status
* In Candidate Recommendation; awaiting implementation reports
* Potential coordination of dates with XSLT 3.0
J5.1.2 Dependencies inhibiting progression
* Sufficient implementation experience and reports thereof
* Detailed review of specifications by WG
Assign a participant (who is not the editor) to each document for
detailed review
- XDM 3.1 - Jonathan.
- XPath 3.1 - Michael Kay.
- F&O 3.1 - Abel
- Serialization 3.1 - Tim
- XQuery 3.1 - Michael Sperberg-McQueen
- XQueryX 3.1 - Andy.
ACTION A-654-11: Jonathan, Michael Kay, Abel, Tim, Michael
Sperber-McQueen, Andy to review assigned specification. ETA 2016-10-11
* Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters
* PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request
* REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request
J5.2 Update 3.0
J5.2.1 Current Status
* In Last Call Working Draft
At XML Prague, Liam talked to a few people about XQuery Update but found
no great enthusiasm for doing the work. We cannot progress without
plans for a test suite and potential implementers. The WG needs to
decide what to do with this spec.
Status: Ready to discuss
J5.2.2 Require owner of XQUF 3.0 Test Suite
J5.2.3 Dependencies inhibiting progression
* CR Transition Request and authorization, CR pub request
* Completion of test suite minimum-required-to-declare-victory
* Sufficient implementation experience and reports thereof
* Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters
* PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request
* REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request
J6. Any other business
J6.1 Consideration of future work
J6.1.1 QT 3.2
The WGs decided that we will finish the 3.1 documents presently under way,
but undertake no new work. Maintenance work should be planned upon for a
period of time after finishing the specifications.
J6.1.2 FT 3.1
Currently inadequate interest and resources
J6.1.3 Update 3.1
Currently inadequate interest and resources
J7. Adjourn
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XML Query Working Group
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Q1. The XML Query WG does not intend to maintains specs earlier than the
3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches Recommendation,
maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated.
Q1.0 This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other
problems reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) XML Query WG suite of
specifications.
Q1.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of XML Query WG documents
(none)
Q2. Active Specification Development
Q2.1 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 (John)
Q2.1.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/src/changes.txt
* The WG needs to obtain implementation experience with this document.
Q2.2 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 Requirements and Use Cases (Andy)
See
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/requirements/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html
* The WGs need to be certain that this document is completed
(red/yellow/green bullets on requirements, all the use cases intended to
be published) and a decision made to advance it to WG Note.
Q2.3 XQuery 3.1 (Jonathan)
Q2.3.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt
(none)
Q2.4 XQueryX 3.1 (Josh)
Q2.4.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/src/changes.txt
Q2.4.1 Bug 29823 - [XQX31] Duplicated elements
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29823
ACTION A-654-07: Josh to investigate duplicated elements in XQueryX (Bug
29823).
Q3. Test Suite Development
Q3.1 Update Facility 3.0 Test Suite (????)
* Need test suite developer/manager
* Need tests
Q4. Any other business
Q5. Adjourn
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