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- Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:58:13 +0100
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DRAFT XML Query/XSL WG Joint Teleconference #654 Agenda 2016-09-20 Andy will chair this meeting. PLEASE SEND CORRECTIONS AND ADDITIONS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO A REVISED AGENDA CAN BE PREPARED IN A TIMELY MANNER! Changes in this agenda: This week, I'd like us to work on the following items: J4.3 (Serialization) J4.6 (Test suite) Q2.4 (XQueryX) Key: J = Joint Query/XSLT meeting; Q = Query-only meeting Teleconference connection details --------------------------------- (Member only) https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2015Sep/0014.html SUMMARY OF DECISIONS ==================== Note to secretary: Please insert a summary of all decisions made during this teleconference at this location in the minutes. Decisions MUST be clear as to their complete intent. The subject of the decision should *not* require dereferencing; it is most helpful if agenda numbers and bug numbers are accompanied by their titles. If a decision is recorded about the resolution of a bug, the decision must state exactly what the resolution is (e.g., "Accept the solution in comment #5", or "Replace the production for XXX with this: <new production>", or the like. It should be possible to read a decision months later and be certain what it meant and whether or not it was properly applied. NEW ACTION ITEMS ================ Note to secretary: Please insert all new action items assigned during this teleconference at this location in the minutes. Action items MUST make sense even when they are viewed standalone (that is, not read in the context of the agenda item where they were assigned). This explicitly requires that all referents (e.g., "this", "that") be made clear. Action items such as "Ralph to resolve this problem" are DISALLOWED. It takes a scribe only a few additional minutes to ensure that action items are clear, while it takes the entire WG considerable effort to constantly research the meaning of unclear action items. The subject of the action item should *not* require dereferencing; it is most helpful if agenda numbers and bug numbers are accompanied by their titles. =================================================== Joint XML Query Working Group and XSL Working Group =================================================== J1. Administrative Items J1.1 Selection of secretary(s) Tim has been asked to take the minutes. John has been asked to stand by. NOTE: The chair will confirm the secretary prior to the start of the meeting. Most recent secretaries (least-recent participants first): ---------------------------------------------------------- (This list identifies the most recent three occasions when each participant acted as Secretary for the Task Force. The person whose name is at the top of the list should plan to take the minutes at the meeting identified by this agenda; if that person is unavailable, then the job will fall to the next person on the list, etc. Tim Mills - 2016-05-10, 2016-03-22, 2015-12-08 John Snelson - 2016-05-24, 2016-01-12, 2015-07-16 Michael Sprbrg-McQn - 2016-06-07, 2016-02-09, 2015-10-03 Michael Dyck - 2016-06-14, 2016-03-08, 2015-11-17 Adam Retter - 2016-06-21, 2016-01-26, 2015-10-20 Abel Braaksma - 2016-06-28 Jonathan Robie - 2016-07-05, 2016-04-12, 2016-01-05 Josh Spiegel - 2016-07-19, 2016-03-15, 2015-12-01 Mike Kay - 2016-07-26, 2016-04-26, 2016-03-01 O'Neil Delpratt - 2016-09-06, 2016-04-19, 2016-02-02 Liam Quin - 2016-09-13, 2016-05-03, 2016-01-19 J1.2 Call the Roll -- NOT DONE DURING TELECONFERENCE Note to secretary: During the meeting, take a note of the Webex participants, then list in the minutes those present and those who sent regrets. All others will be presumed to have been absent without regrets. XML Query WG membership list: http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=18797&order=org XSL WG membership list: http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=19552&order=org Regrets: J1.3 Approval of agenda J1.3.1 Additions, deletions, or corrections? J1.4 Review of recent minutes and administrative items J1.4.1 Minutes of meeting #653 (Liam) https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Sep/0013.html J1.5 Review of action items NOTE: Please be prepared to respond quickly on your action items! J1.5.1 Outstanding action items ACTION A-649-04: Abel to report test results. Status: Pending; ETA 2016-09-20 ACTION A-650-08: Action on Abel to implement fn:transform Status: Pending; ETA 2016-09-20 ACTION A-653-01: Mike to implement change in bug 29765 comment 5 for width modifier in formatting the year component Status: Pending; ETA not specified. ACTION A-653-02: Mike to implement bug 29785 comment 6, modified by "the outcome of validation..." Status: Pending; ETA not specified. ACTION A-653-03 Mike to fix typo pointed out in 29722 on fn:sort, array:sort Status: Pending; ETA not specified. J1.5.2 Completed action items J1.6 Update on related activities J1.6.1 Update on XSLT WG activities (Sharon, MikeK) J1.6.2 Update on EXPath/EXQuery CG activities (Mike) J1.7 Future Meetings J1.7.1 QT Meeting Schedule [V45] Joint XML Query/XSL WG meeting schedule https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2016Jul/0003.html J1.7.2 Future F2F Meetings J1.7.2.1 Other future F2F meetings (none) J2. Documents For Review (none) J3. Maintenance Issues J3.0 The XML Query WG and XSLT WG do not intend to maintains specs earlier than the 3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches Recommendation, maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated. This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other problems reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) suite of specifications. J3.0.1 Concerns raised by the XSLT working group in regards to potential completion delays of XSLT 3.0 if XPath 3.0 is made obsoleted by 3.1 Status: Pending the outcome of Abel's review of 3.0 bugs/errata. Any change to the status of the 3.0 specs requires explicit XSL WG consultation. J3.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of joint XML Query WG and XSLT WG documents (none) J4. Active Specification Development ** Note: Full Text 3.1 has been removed from the WG agenda. If, in the future, there is sufficient interest (i.e. at least two independent participants to develop the spec and implementations), then this can be brought back on the agenda. J4.1 Data Model 3.1 (Norm) J4.1.0 Internal working draft http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview-diff.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/src/changes.txt (none) J4.2 Functions and Operators 3.1 (Mike Kay) J4.2.0 Internal working draft http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview-diff.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/src/changes.txt (none) J4.3 Serialization 3.1 (Michael Sperberg-McQueen, Andy) J4.3.0 Internal working draft http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview-diff.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/src/changes.txt J4.3.1 Bug 29822 - [SER31] Adaptive output method, xs:anyURI https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29822 Status: Ready to discuss J4.3.2 Bug 29824 - [SER31] Adaptive output method, xs:double https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29824 Status: Ready to discuss J4.4 XPath 3.1 (Jonathan) J4.4.0 Internal working draft http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31-diff.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt (none) J4.5 Grammar Test Applets (Michael Dyck) (none) J4.6 QT3 test suite (O'Neil) J4.6.1 Status report on test suite, harness, tools J4.6.2 Status of 3.1 tests results Status: Currently three implementers submitted results J5. Progression of Work J5.1 XSLT 3.0, XQuery 3.1, XQueryX 3.1, XPath 3.1, XDM 3.1, F&O 3.1, Serialization 3.1 J5.1.1 Current status * In Candidate Recommendation; awaiting implementation reports * Potential coordination of dates with XSLT 3.0 J5.1.2 Dependencies inhibiting progression * Sufficient implementation experience and reports thereof * Detailed review of specifications by WG Assign a participant (who is not the editor) to each document for detailed review - XDM 3.1 - XPath 3.1 - F&O 3.1 - Serialization 3.1 - XQuery 3.1 - XQueryX 3.1 * Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters * PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request * REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request J5.2 Update 3.0 J5.2.1 Current Status * In Last Call Working Draft At XML Prague, Liam talked to a few people about XQuery Update but found no great enthusiasm for doing the work. We cannot progress without plans for a test suite and potential implementers. The WG needs to decide what to do with this spec. Status: Ready to discuss J5.2.2 Require owner of XQUF 3.0 Test Suite J5.2.3 Dependencies inhibiting progression * CR Transition Request and authorization, CR pub request * Completion of test suite minimum-required-to-declare-victory * Sufficient implementation experience and reports thereof * Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters * PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request * REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request J6. Any other business J6.1 Consideration of future work J6.1.1 QT 3.2 The WGs decided that we will finish the 3.1 documents presently under way, but undertake no new work. Maintenance work should be planned upon for a period of time after finishing the specifications. J6.1.2 FT 3.1 Currently inadequate interest and resources J6.1.3 Update 3.1 Currently inadequate interest and resources J7. Adjourn ======================= XML Query Working Group ======================= Q1. The XML Query WG does not intend to maintains specs earlier than the 3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches Recommendation, maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated. Q1.0 This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other problems reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) XML Query WG suite of specifications. Q1.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of XML Query WG documents (none) Q2. Active Specification Development Q2.1 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 (John) Q2.1.0 Internal working draft http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview-diff.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/src/changes.txt * The WG needs to obtain implementation experience with this document. Q2.2 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 Requirements and Use Cases (Andy) See http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/requirements/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html * The WGs need to be certain that this document is completed (red/yellow/green bullets on requirements, all the use cases intended to be published) and a decision made to advance it to WG Note. Q2.3 XQuery 3.1 (Jonathan) Q2.3.0 Internal working draft http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31-diff.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt (none) Q2.4 XQueryX 3.1 (Josh) Q2.4.0 Internal working draft http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview-diff.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/src/changes.txt Q2.4.1 Bug 29823 - [XQX31] Duplicated elements https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29823 Status: Ready to discuss Q3. Test Suite Development Q3.1 Update Facility 3.0 Test Suite (????) * Need test suite developer/manager * Need tests Q4. Any other business Q5. Adjourn Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. 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