- From: Liam R. E. Quin <liam@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 12:14:43 -0400
- To: Andrew Coleman <andrew_coleman@uk.ibm.com>, public-xsl-query@w3.org
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This week, I'd like us to work on the following items:
J4.2 (F&O)
J4.6 (Test suite)
Key:
J = Joint Query/XSLT meeting;
Q = Query-only meeting
NEW ACTION ITEMS
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ACTION A-658-01 Liam to review XDM ETA 15th Nov
ACTION A-658-02 Liam to review XDM ETA 15th Nov
ACTION A-658-03 Josh to review XQuery 3.1 ETA 15th Nov
ACTION A-658-04 Mike Kay to implement comment 4 of 29939 base URI of stylesheet
ACTION A-658-05 Mike Kay to implement comment 4 of 29940 fn:transform serialization parameter override
ACTION A-658-06 Tim to address bug 29946 on test results in view of spec change
ACTION A-658-07 Liam to review MIME type registration for XQuery 3.1
ACTION A-658-08 Liam to ping i18n for review/sign-off on 3.1
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Joint XML Query Working Group and XSL Working Group
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J1. Administrative Items
J1.1 Selection of secretary(s)
Liam took minutes.
Most recent secretaries (least-recent participants first):
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(This list identifies the most recent three occasions when each
participant acted as Secretary for the Task Force. The person whose
name is at the top of the list should plan to take the minutes at the
meeting identified by this agenda; if that person is unavailable, then
the job will fall to the next person on the list, etc.
Jonathan Robie - 2016-07-05, 2016-04-12, 2016-01-05
Josh Spiegel - 2016-07-19, 2016-03-15, 2015-12-01
Mike Kay - 2016-07-26, 2016-04-26, 2016-03-01
O'Neil Delpratt - 2016-09-06, 2016-04-19, 2016-02-02
Tim Mills - 2016-09-20, 2016-05-10, 2016-03-22
Michael Sprbrg-McQn - 2016-09-27, 2016-06-07, 2016-02-09
Michael Dyck - 2016-10-04, 2016-06-14, 2016-03-08
Abel Braaksma - 2016-10-18, 2016-06-28
Liam Quin - 2016-10-25, 2016-09-13, 2016-05-03
J1.2 Call the Roll -- NOT DONE DURING TELECONFERENCE
Note to secretary: During the meeting, take a note of the Webex
participants, then list in the minutes those present and those who sent
regrets. All others will be presumed to have been absent without regrets.
XML Query WG membership list:
http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=18797&order=org
XSL WG membership list:
http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=19552&order=org
Present:
Andy
Liam
Mike Kay
O'Neil
Tim Mills
Michael Dyck
Regrets:
MSM, Abel, Josh
J1.3 Approval of agenda
J1.3.1 Additions, deletions, or corrections?
(none)
J1.4 Review of recent minutes and administrative items
J1.4.1 Minutes of meeting #657 (Abel)
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Oct/0022.html
accepted
J1.5 Review of action items
NOTE: Please be prepared to respond quickly on your action items!
J1.5.1 Outstanding action items
ACTION A-655-05: Jonathan Robie to make a proposal to resolve bug 29858
"Named
Function References - context information".
Status: Pending; ETA 2016-10-25
ACTION A-655-06: Jonathan Robie to review the use of the verb "denote" in
the
XPath and XQuery specs.
Status: Pending; ETA 2016-10-25
ACTION A-656-05: Josh to implement the fix in comment 1 of bug 29868
(XQueryX
stylesheet does not always convert arrowExpr to XQuery correctly).
Status: Pending; ETA not specified.
[regrets]
ACTION A-657-01: Jonathan to review XDM 3.1
Status: closed, moved to Andy and Liam
[looking for other volunteers]
[Liam and Andy will try to do a quick look]
ACTION A-657-02: Abel to finish reviewing F&O 3.1
Status: Pending; ETA 2016-10-25
[regrets]
ACTION A-657-04: MKay to update text of the FOJS error codes to include
map/array functions where appropriate, see bug 29928
Status: done
ACTION A-657-12: ABr to create more tests for fn:transform, as he
describes in bug 29834
[regrets]
ACTION A-657-13: MKay to look at the tests in bug 29883 and suggest a fix
done; test-set not yet regenerated because of other issues
ACTION A-657-14: O'Neil to look at bug 29931 on collations to add
dependencies for these tests
done
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Oct/0032.html
ACTION A-657-18: O'Neil to look at tests fn-transform-2, 26, 27 to improve
them and actually test the caching, see Bug 29942
done
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Oct/0027.html
ACTION A-657-19: O'Neil to look at tests cbcl-cast-gYear-003 and
cbcl-cast-gYearMonth-004 and to fix as proposed by MKay in comment #7 of
bug 29547 (drop errors as allowed result)
done
J1.5.2 Completed action items
J1.6 Update on related activities
J1.6.1 Update on XSLT WG activities (Sharon, MikeK)
(nothing to report)
J1.6.2 Update on EXPath/EXQuery CG activities (Mike)
(nothing to report)
J1.7 Future Meetings
J1.7.1 QT Meeting Schedule
[V45] Joint XML Query/XSL WG meeting schedule
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2016Jul/0003.html
Clocks go back this weekend in Europe
J1.7.2 Future F2F Meetings
J1.7.2.1 Other future F2F meetings
(none)
J2. Documents For Review
(none)
J3. Maintenance Issues
J3.0 The XML Query WG and XSLT WG do not intend to maintains specs
earlier than the 3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches
Recommendation, maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated.
This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other problems
reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) suite of specifications.
J3.0.1 Concerns raised by the XSLT working group in regards to potential
completion delays of XSLT 3.0 if XPath 3.0 is made obsoleted by 3.1
Status: Pending the outcome of Abel's review of 3.0 bugs/errata.
Any change to the status of the 3.0 specs requires explicit XSL WG
consultation.
J3.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of joint XML Query WG and
XSLT WG documents
(none)
J4. Active Specification Development
** Note: Full Text 3.1 has been removed from the WG agenda.
If, in the future, there is sufficient interest (i.e. at least two
independent participants to develop the spec and implementations),
then this can be brought back on the agenda.
J4.1 Data Model 3.1 (Norm)
J4.1.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/src/changes.txt
(none)
J4.2 Functions and Operators 3.1 (Mike Kay)
J4.2.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/src/changes.txt
J4.2.1 Bug 29918 - [FO31] map:find ordering constraint prevents streaming
evaluation
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29918
Status: Ready to discuss [needs Josh]
J4.2.2 Bug 29939 - [FO31] fn:transform stylesheet-base-uri options
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29939
See proposal in comment #4
Status: Accepted Mike's comment 4
ACTION A-658-04 Mike Kay to implement comment 4 of 29939 base URI of stylesheet
J4.2.3 Bug 29940 - [FO31] fn:transform serialization parameters
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29940
See proposal in comment #4
Status: accepted comment 4
ACTION A-658-05 Mike Kay to implement comment 4 of 29940 fn:transform serialization parameter override
J4.2.4 Bug 29951 - [FO31] fn-transform "saved"
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29951
Status: [discussed but needs more discussion]
Tim: We had a requirement to output multiple documents in XQ 3.1.
We were going to do that with fn:put but never did,
but fn:transform can do it!
Why did we get rid of fn:put and let fn:transform do it?
E.g. you can use xslt:result-document to make multiple docs and the expression returns a list of URIs to XQuery.
Mike Kay: this is an enormously useful facility.
The real danger is that the semantics aren't well-defined, more than
the implementation difficulty.
Liam: I think fn:put was copied into XQuery 3.1
The WG finds
https://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31.html#id-fnput-feature
it's a normative reference to XQuery Update
Could we make it a wrapper around fn:transform()
Shouldn't it be in XQuery and not XPath?
Tim would like to hear from Josh about fn:transform writing to resources.
If it stays in, we need to say what happens if you repeatedly use
fn:transform() to create the same URI multiple times -- fn:put() makes
an error and in XSLT it's an error, but here it'd be hard to enforce if
the XSLT processor is external.
Postponed until we have both Josh and Jonathan.
See also bug 29959 on fn:put()
J4.3 Serialization 3.1 (Michael Sperberg-McQueen, Andy)
J4.3.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/src/changes.txt
(none)
J4.4 XPath 3.1 (Jonathan)
J4.4.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt
J4.4.1 Bug 29858 - [XP31] Named Function References - context information
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29858
Status: Pending completion of A-655-05
J4.5 Grammar Test Applets (Michael Dyck)
(none)
J4.6 QT3 test suite (O'Neil)
J4.6.1 Status report on test suite, harness, tools
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29946
Mike: we've made a spec change today
Tim: going to keep current result and add a second
ACTION A-658-06 Tim to address bug 29946 on test results in view of spec change
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29932
A reminder that autogenerated tests change each time the spec changes.
Work is in progress.
J4.6.2 Status of 3.1 tests results
Status: Currently three implementers submitted results
https://dev.w3.org/2011/QT3-test-suite/ReportingResults31/report.html
The autogenerated F&O tests are new, so the report doesn't reflect
people running them.
J5. Progression of Work
J5.1 XSLT 3.0, XQuery 3.1, XQueryX 3.1, XPath 3.1, XDM 3.1, F&O 3.1,
Serialization 3.1
J5.1.1 Current status
* In Candidate Recommendation; awaiting implementation reports
* Potential coordination of dates with XSLT 3.0
J5.1.2 Dependencies inhibiting progression
* Sufficient implementation experience and reports thereof
* Detailed review of specifications by WG
Participant assigned to each document for detailed review
- XDM 3.1 - Andy, Liam
- XPath 3.1 - Mike Kay
- F&O 3.1 - Abel
- Serialization 3.1 - Tim
- XQuery 3.1 - Michael Sperberg-McQueen
- XQueryX 3.1 - Andy
* Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters
* PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request
* REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request
ACTION A-658-07 Liam to review MIME type registration for XQuery 3.1
ACTION A-658-08 Liam to ping i18n for review/sign-off on 3.1
Mike Kay: have to publish in HTML 5 now. We've been looking at that
in XSLT. Carine is looking at that.
I18N review:
J5.2 Update 3.0
J5.2.1 Current Status
* In Last Call Working Draft
At XML Prague, Liam talked to a few people about XQuery Update but found
no great enthusiasm for doing the work. We cannot progress without plans
for a test suite and potential implementers. The WG needs to decide what
to do with this spec.
Status: Ready to discuss
J5.2.2 Require owner of XQUF 3.0 Test Suite
J5.2.3 Dependencies inhibiting progression
* CR Transition Request and authorization, CR pub request
* Completion of test suite minimum-required-to-declare-victory
* Sufficient implementation experience and reports thereof
* Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters
* PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request
* REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request
J6. Any other business
J6.1 Consideration of future work
J6.1.1 QT 3.2
The WGs decided that we will finish the 3.1 documents presently under way,
but undertake no new work. Maintenance work should be planned upon for a
period of time after finishing the specifications.
J6.1.2 FT 3.1
Currently inadequate interest and resources
J6.1.3 Update 3.1
Currently inadequate interest and resources
J7. Adjourn
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XML Query Working Group
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Q1. The XML Query WG does not intend to maintains specs earlier than the
3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches Recommendation,
maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated.
Q1.0 This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other
problems reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) XML Query WG suite of
specifications.
Q1.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of XML Query WG documents
(none)
Q2. Active Specification Development
Q2.1 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 (John)
Q2.1.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/src/changes.txt
* The WG needs to obtain implementation experience with this document.
Q2.2 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 Requirements and Use Cases (Andy)
See
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/requirements/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html
* The WGs need to be certain that this document is completed
(red/yellow/green bullets on requirements, all the use cases intended to
be published) and a decision made to advance it to WG Note.
Q2.3 XQuery 3.1 (Jonathan)
Q2.3.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt
(none)
Q2.4 XQueryX 3.1 (Josh)
Q2.4.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/src/changes.txt
(none)
Q3. Test Suite Development
Q3.1 Update Facility 3.0 Test Suite (????)
* Need test suite developer/manager
* Need tests
Q4. Any other business
Q5. Adjourn
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