- From: Josh Spiegel <josh.spiegel@oracle.com>
- Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 16:19:44 -0700 (PDT)
- To: Andrew Coleman <andrew_coleman@uk.ibm.com>
- Cc: public-xsl-query@w3.org
- Message-ID: <802394C3-ECA8-44D0-BA52-863D9A03A959@oracle.com>
I'm sorry, I must send regrets again. I am traveling and have conflicting meetings. Thanks, Josh > On Oct 21, 2016, at 5:30 AM, Andrew Coleman <andrew_coleman@uk.ibm.com> wrote: > > DRAFT XML Query/XSL WG Joint Teleconference #658 Agenda 2016-10-25 > > > Andy will chair this meeting. > > PLEASE SEND CORRECTIONS AND ADDITIONS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO A REVISED > AGENDA CAN BE PREPARED IN A TIMELY MANNER! > > Changes in this agenda: > > > > This week, I'd like us to work on the following items: > J4.2 (F&O) > J4.6 (Test suite) > > > Key: > J = Joint Query/XSLT meeting; > Q = Query-only meeting > > > Teleconference connection details > --------------------------------- > > (Member only) > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2015Sep/0014.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2015Sep/0014.html> > > > > SUMMARY OF DECISIONS > ==================== > Note to secretary: Please insert a summary of all decisions made during > this teleconference at this location in the minutes. > > Decisions MUST be clear as to their complete intent. The subject of the > decision should *not* require dereferencing; it is most helpful if > agenda numbers and bug numbers are accompanied by their titles. If a > decision is recorded about the resolution of a bug, the decision must > state exactly what the resolution is (e.g., "Accept the solution in > comment #5", or "Replace the production for XXX with this: <new > production>", or the like. It should be possible to read a decision > months later and be certain what it meant and whether or not it was > properly applied. > > > NEW ACTION ITEMS > ================ > Note to secretary: Please insert all new action items assigned during > this teleconference at this location in the minutes. > > Action items MUST make sense even when they are viewed standalone (that > is, not read in the context of the agenda item where they were > assigned). This explicitly requires that all referents (e.g., "this", > "that") be made clear. Action items such as "Ralph to resolve this > problem" are DISALLOWED. It takes a scribe only a few additional > minutes to ensure that action items are clear, while it takes the entire > WG considerable effort to constantly research the meaning of unclear > action items. The subject of the action item should *not* require > dereferencing; it is most helpful if agenda numbers and bug numbers are > accompanied by their titles. > > > > =================================================== > Joint XML Query Working Group and XSL Working Group > =================================================== > > > J1. Administrative Items > > J1.1 Selection of secretary(s) > > Jonathan has been asked to take the minutes. Josh has been asked to stand by. > > > NOTE: The chair will confirm the secretary prior to the start of the > meeting. > > > Most recent secretaries (least-recent participants first): > ---------------------------------------------------------- > (This list identifies the most recent three occasions when each > participant acted as Secretary for the Task Force. The person whose > name is at the top of the list should plan to take the minutes at the > meeting identified by this agenda; if that person is unavailable, then > the job will fall to the next person on the list, etc. > > Jonathan Robie - 2016-07-05, 2016-04-12, 2016-01-05 > Josh Spiegel - 2016-07-19, 2016-03-15, 2015-12-01 > Mike Kay - 2016-07-26, 2016-04-26, 2016-03-01 > O'Neil Delpratt - 2016-09-06, 2016-04-19, 2016-02-02 > Liam Quin - 2016-09-13, 2016-05-03, 2016-01-19 > Tim Mills - 2016-09-20, 2016-05-10, 2016-03-22 > Michael Sprbrg-McQn - 2016-09-27, 2016-06-07, 2016-02-09 > Michael Dyck - 2016-10-04, 2016-06-14, 2016-03-08 > Abel Braaksma - 2016-10-18, 2016-06-28 > > > > J1.2 Call the Roll -- NOT DONE DURING TELECONFERENCE > > Note to secretary: During the meeting, take a note of the Webex > participants, then list in the minutes those present and those who sent > regrets. All others will be presumed to have been absent without regrets. > > > XML Query WG membership list: > http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=18797&order=org <http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=18797&order=org> > > XSL WG membership list: > http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=19552&order=org <http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=19552&order=org> > > > Regrets: > > > > > J1.3 Approval of agenda > > J1.3.1 Additions, deletions, or corrections? > > > > J1.4 Review of recent minutes and administrative items > > J1.4.1 Minutes of meeting #657 (Abel) > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Oct/0022.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Oct/0022.html> > > > J1.5 Review of action items > > NOTE: Please be prepared to respond quickly on your action items! > > J1.5.1 Outstanding action items > > > ACTION A-655-05: Jonathan Robie to make a proposal to resolve bug 29858 "Named > Function References - context information". > > Status: Pending; ETA 2016-10-25 > > > ACTION A-655-06: Jonathan Robie to review the use of the verb "denote" in the > XPath and XQuery specs. > > Status: Pending; ETA 2016-10-25 > > > ACTION A-656-05: Josh to implement the fix in comment 1 of bug 29868 (XQueryX > stylesheet does not always convert arrowExpr to XQuery correctly). > > Status: Pending; ETA not specified. > > > ACTION A-657-01: Jonathan to review XDM 3.1 > > Status: Pending; ETA 2016-10-25 > > > ACTION A-657-02: Abel to finish reviewing F&O 3.1 > > Status: Pending; ETA 2016-10-25 > > > ACTION A-657-04: MKay to update text of the FOJS error codes to include map/array functions where appropriate, see bug 29928 > > Status: Pending; ETA not specified. > > > ACTION A-657-12: ABr to create more tests for fn:transform, as he describes in bug 29834 > > Status: Pending; ETA not specified. > > > ACTION A-657-13: MKay to look at the tests in bug 29883 and suggest a fix > > Status: Pending; ETA not specified. > > > ACTION A-657-14: O'Neil to look at bug 29931 on collations to add dependencies for these tests > > Status: Pending; ETA not specified. > > > ACTION A-657-18: O'Neil to look at tests fn-transform-2, 26, 27 to improve them and actually test the caching, see Bug 29942 > > Status: Pending; ETA not specified. > > > ACTION A-657-19: O'Neil to look at tests cbcl-cast-gYear-003 and cbcl-cast-gYearMonth-004 and to fix as proposed by MKay in comment #7 of bug 29547 (drop errors as allowed result) > > Status: Pending; ETA not specified. > > > > J1.5.2 Completed action items > > > ACTION A-654-11: Jonathan, Michael Kay, Abel, Tim, Michael > Sperberg-McQueen and Andy to review assigned specifications. > > Status: Closed; Opened some individual actions > > > ACTION A-656-01: MKay to make the change summarized in comment 11 of Bug 28812 > (JSON options 'unescape' and 'liberal' prevent use of off-the-shelf JSON > parsers) > > Status: Closed; See > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28812#c14 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28812#c14> > > > ACTION A-656-03: Abel to modify tests in fn/transform.xml to use XPath syntax. > > Status: Closed; Reported in last meeting > > > ACTION A-656-04: O'Neil to run the test suite catalog checks. > > Status: Closed; Reported in meeting > > > ACTION A-657-03: MKay to implement changes required to allow "key" attribute in top level of json xml for fn:json-to-xml, bug 29917, comment#0 > > Status: Closed; See > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29917#c3 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29917#c3> > > > ACTION A-657-05: MKay to adopt "use-any" for map:merge and to add a Note to clarify its meaning, see bug 29929 > > Status: Closed; See > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29929#c5 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29929#c5> > > > ACTION A-657-06: MKay to implement making errors on unspecified variables or context item a dynamic error for fn:load-xquery-module, bug 29930 > > Status: Closed; See > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29930#c2 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29930#c2> > > > ACTION A-657-07: MKay to implement the proposal on FOQM007 in bug 29935, comment#0 > > Status: Closed; See > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29935#c2 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29935#c2> > > > ACTION A-657-10: MKay to propose a response to make the parameter stylesheet-base-uri implementation defined to address the concerns raised in the bug report, see bug 29939 > > Status: Closed; See > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29939#c4 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29939#c4> > > > ACTION A-657-08: MKay to put the rules on serialization parameters in one place, see comment#0 and #1 in bug 29940 > > Status: Closed; See > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29940#c4 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29940#c4> > > > ACTION A-657-09: MKay to bring fn:transform in line with fn:serialize w.r.t. serialization parameters, see Bug 29943 > > Status: Closed; See > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29943#c3 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29943#c3> > > > ACTION A-657-11: Andy to make the text on use-character-maps to read: "The use-character-maps parameter is directly applicable to the Adaptive output method only as elsewhere specified.", see Bug 29925 > > Status: Closed; See > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Oct/0024.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Oct/0024.html> > > > ACTION A-657-15: O'Neil to fix the tests mentioned in this bug report, fn-parse-json-110, bug 29934 > > Status: Closed; See > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29934#c2 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29934#c2> > > > ACTION A-657-16: Tim to fix test fn-load-xquery-module-012 as he proposed in bug 29936 > > Status: Closed; See > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Oct/0023.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Oct/0023.html> > > > ACTION A-657-17: Tim to fix test fn-load-xquery-module-060 as he proposed in bug 29937 > > Status: Closed; See > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Oct/0023.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Oct/0023.html> > > > > J1.6 Update on related activities > > J1.6.1 Update on XSLT WG activities (Sharon, MikeK) > > > > J1.6.2 Update on EXPath/EXQuery CG activities (Mike) > > > > J1.7 Future Meetings > > J1.7.1 QT Meeting Schedule > > [V45] Joint XML Query/XSL WG meeting schedule > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2016Jul/0003.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2016Jul/0003.html> > > > > J1.7.2 Future F2F Meetings > > J1.7.2.1 Other future F2F meetings > > (none) > > > J2. Documents For Review > > (none) > > > > J3. Maintenance Issues > > J3.0 The XML Query WG and XSLT WG do not intend to maintains specs > earlier than the 3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches > Recommendation, maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated. > > This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other problems > reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) suite of specifications. > > > J3.0.1 Concerns raised by the XSLT working group in regards to potential > completion delays of XSLT 3.0 if XPath 3.0 is made obsoleted by 3.1 > > Status: Pending the outcome of Abel's review of 3.0 bugs/errata. > Any change to the status of the 3.0 specs requires explicit XSL WG > consultation. > > > J3.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of joint XML Query WG and > XSLT WG documents > > (none) > > > > J4. Active Specification Development > > > ** Note: Full Text 3.1 has been removed from the WG agenda. > If, in the future, there is sufficient interest (i.e. at least two > independent participants to develop the spec and implementations), > then this can be brought back on the agenda. > > > > J4.1 Data Model 3.1 (Norm) > > J4.1.0 Internal working draft > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview-diff.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/src/changes.txt> > > (none) > > > J4.2 Functions and Operators 3.1 (Mike Kay) > > J4.2.0 Internal working draft > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview-diff.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/src/changes.txt> > > > J4.2.1 Bug 29918 - [FO31] map:find ordering constraint prevents streaming evaluation > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29918 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29918> > > Status: Ready to discuss > > > J4.2.2 Bug 29939 - [FO31] fn:transform stylesheet-base-uri options > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29939 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29939> > See proposal in comment #4 > > Status: Ready to discuss > > > J4.2.3 Bug 29940 - [FO31] fn:transform serialization parameters > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29940 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29940> > See proposal in comment #4 > > Status: Ready to discuss > > > J4.2.4 Bug 29951 - [FO31] fn-transform "saved" > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29951 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29951> > > Status: Ready to discuss > > > > J4.3 Serialization 3.1 (Michael Sperberg-McQueen, Andy) > > J4.3.0 Internal working draft > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview-diff.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/src/changes.txt> > > (none) > > > J4.4 XPath 3.1 (Jonathan) > > J4.4.0 Internal working draft > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31-diff.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt> > > > J4.4.1 Bug 29858 - [XP31] Named Function References - context information > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29858 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29858> > > Status: Pending completion of A-655-05 > > > > J4.5 Grammar Test Applets (Michael Dyck) > > (none) > > > J4.6 QT3 test suite (O'Neil) > > J4.6.1 Status report on test suite, harness, tools > > > J4.6.2 Status of 3.1 tests results > > Status: Currently three implementers submitted results > > > > J5. Progression of Work > > J5.1 XSLT 3.0, XQuery 3.1, XQueryX 3.1, XPath 3.1, XDM 3.1, F&O 3.1, > Serialization 3.1 > > J5.1.1 Current status > > * In Candidate Recommendation; awaiting implementation reports > > * Potential coordination of dates with XSLT 3.0 > > > J5.1.2 Dependencies inhibiting progression > > * Sufficient implementation experience and reports thereof > > * Detailed review of specifications by WG > > Participant assigned to each document for detailed review > - XDM 3.1 - Jonathan > - XPath 3.1 - Mike Kay > - F&O 3.1 - Abel > - Serialization 3.1 - Tim > - XQuery 3.1 - Michael Sperberg-McQueen > - XQueryX 3.1 - Andy > > > * Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters > > * PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request > > * REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request > > > > J5.2 Update 3.0 > > J5.2.1 Current Status > > * In Last Call Working Draft > > At XML Prague, Liam talked to a few people about XQuery Update but found no great enthusiasm for doing the work. We cannot progress without plans for a test suite and potential implementers. The WG needs to decide what to do with this spec. > > Status: Ready to discuss > > > > J5.2.2 Require owner of XQUF 3.0 Test Suite > > > J5.2.3 Dependencies inhibiting progression > > * CR Transition Request and authorization, CR pub request > > * Completion of test suite minimum-required-to-declare-victory > > * Sufficient implementation experience and reports thereof > > * Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters > > * PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request > > * REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request > > > > J6. Any other business > > J6.1 Consideration of future work > > J6.1.1 QT 3.2 > > The WGs decided that we will finish the 3.1 documents presently under way, > but undertake no new work. Maintenance work should be planned upon for a > period of time after finishing the specifications. > > > J6.1.2 FT 3.1 > > Currently inadequate interest and resources > > > J6.1.3 Update 3.1 > > Currently inadequate interest and resources > > > > J7. Adjourn > > > > > ======================= > XML Query Working Group > ======================= > > Q1. The XML Query WG does not intend to maintains specs earlier than the > 3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches Recommendation, > maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated. > > Q1.0 This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other > problems reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) XML Query WG suite of > specifications. > > > Q1.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of XML Query WG documents > > (none) > > > > Q2. Active Specification Development > > Q2.1 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 (John) > > Q2.1.0 Internal working draft > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview-diff.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/src/changes.txt> > > * The WG needs to obtain implementation experience with this document. > > > Q2.2 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 Requirements and Use Cases (Andy) > See > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/requirements/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/requirements/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html> > > * The WGs need to be certain that this document is completed > (red/yellow/green bullets on requirements, all the use cases intended to > be published) and a decision made to advance it to WG Note. > > > Q2.3 XQuery 3.1 (Jonathan) > > Q2.3.0 Internal working draft > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31-diff.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt> > > (none) > > > Q2.4 XQueryX 3.1 (Josh) > > Q2.4.0 Internal working draft > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview-diff.html> > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/src/changes.txt> > > (none) > > > Q3. Test Suite Development > > Q3.1 Update Facility 3.0 Test Suite (????) > > * Need test suite developer/manager > > * Need tests > > > > Q4. Any other business > > > > Q5. Adjourn > > > > > Unless stated otherwise above: > IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. > Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU
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