- From: Andrew Coleman <andrew_coleman@uk.ibm.com>
- Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 14:09:07 +0000
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DRAFT XML Query/XSL WG Joint Teleconference #662 Agenda 2016-11-29
Andy will chair this meeting.
PLEASE SEND CORRECTIONS AND ADDITIONS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO A REVISED
AGENDA CAN BE PREPARED IN A TIMELY MANNER!
Changes in this agenda:
This week, I'd like us to work on the following items:
J4.2 (F&O)
J4.6 (Test suite)
J5 (Progression to PR)
Key:
J = Joint Query/XSLT meeting;
Q = Query-only meeting
Teleconference connection details
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(Member only)
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2015Sep/0014.html
SUMMARY OF DECISIONS
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Note to secretary: Please insert a summary of all decisions made during
this teleconference at this location in the minutes.
Decisions MUST be clear as to their complete intent. The subject of the
decision should *not* require dereferencing; it is most helpful if
agenda numbers and bug numbers are accompanied by their titles. If a
decision is recorded about the resolution of a bug, the decision must
state exactly what the resolution is (e.g., "Accept the solution in
comment #5", or "Replace the production for XXX with this: <new
production>", or the like. It should be possible to read a decision
months later and be certain what it meant and whether or not it was
properly applied.
NEW ACTION ITEMS
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Note to secretary: Please insert all new action items assigned during
this teleconference at this location in the minutes.
Action items MUST make sense even when they are viewed standalone (that
is, not read in the context of the agenda item where they were
assigned). This explicitly requires that all referents (e.g., "this",
"that") be made clear. Action items such as "Ralph to resolve this
problem" are DISALLOWED. It takes a scribe only a few additional
minutes to ensure that action items are clear, while it takes the entire
WG considerable effort to constantly research the meaning of unclear
action items. The subject of the action item should *not* require
dereferencing; it is most helpful if agenda numbers and bug numbers are
accompanied by their titles.
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Joint XML Query Working Group and XSL Working Group
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J1. Administrative Items
J1.1 Selection of secretary(s)
O'Neil has been asked to take the minutes. Michael Sperberg-McQueen has
been asked to stand by.
NOTE: The chair will confirm the secretary prior to the start of the
meeting.
Most recent secretaries (least-recent participants first):
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(This list identifies the most recent three occasions when each
participant acted as Secretary for the Task Force. The person whose
name is at the top of the list should plan to take the minutes at the
meeting identified by this agenda; if that person is unavailable, then
the job will fall to the next person on the list, etc.
O'Neil Delpratt - 2016-09-06, 2016-04-19, 2016-02-02
Michael Sprbrg-McQn - 2016-09-27, 2016-06-07, 2016-02-09
Michael Dyck - 2016-10-04, 2016-06-14, 2016-03-08
Abel Braaksma - 2016-10-18, 2016-06-28
Liam Quin - 2016-10-25, 2016-09-13, 2016-05-03
Josh Spiegel - 2016-11-01, 2016-07-19, 2016-03-15
Jonathan Robie - 2016-11-08, 2016-07-05, 2016-04-12
Mike Kay - 2016-11-15, 2016-07-26, 2016-04-26
J1.2 Call the Roll -- NOT DONE DURING TELECONFERENCE
Note to secretary: During the meeting, take a note of the Webex
participants, then list in the minutes those present and those who sent
regrets. All others will be presumed to have been absent without regrets.
XML Query WG membership list:
http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=18797&order=org
XSL WG membership list:
http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=19552&order=org
Regrets:
J1.3 Approval of agenda
J1.3.1 Additions, deletions, or corrections?
J1.4 Review of recent minutes and administrative items
J1.4.1 Minutes of meeting #661 (Mike)
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Nov/0033.html
J1.5 Review of action items
NOTE: Please be prepared to respond quickly on your action items!
J1.5.1 Outstanding action items
ACTION A-657-12: ABr to create more tests for fn:transform, as he
describes in bug 29834
Status: Pending; ETA 2016-11-26
ACTION A-658-01 Liam to review XDM
Status: Pending; ETA 2016-11-15
ACTION A-658-03 Josh to review XQuery 3.1
Status: Pending; ETA 2016-11-29
ACTION A-658-07 Liam to review MIME type registration for XQuery 3.1
Status: Pending; ETA not specified.
ACTION A-661-01 Jonathan to rebuild XPath/XQuery specs using the HTML5
build route.
Status: Pending; ETA 2016-11-29.
ACTION A-661-02 Josh to rebuild the XQueryX specs using the HTML5 build
route.
Status: Pending; ETA 2016-11-29.
ACTION A-661-04 (Bug 29997) AB to fix up the dependencies on the
fn:transform tests and if appropriate resubmit results.
Status: Pending; ETA not specified.
ACTION A-661-06 (Bug 29949) OND to decide which approach to take and do
it. Alternatives suggested include (a) adding a (rather specialized
dependency) for these tests, or (b) dropping the tests, or (c) alternative
results.
Status: Pending; ETA not specified.
ACTION A-661-07 (Bug 29952) MK to investigate these tests.
Status: Pending; ETA not specified.
ACTION A-661-09 (Bug 29959 – fn:put) JR: Amend XQ 3.1 requirements
(changing the status of this requirement). (And while there under 2.4.4
collations, there is a misreference to fn:put()).
Status: Pending; ETA not specified.
ACTION A-661-10 (Bug 29959 – fn:put) JR: In the XQuery 3.1 spec, get rid
of the optional fn:put() feature
Status: Pending; ETA not specified.
J1.5.2 Completed action items
ACTION A-655-06: Jonathan Robie to review the use of the verb "denote" in
the
XPath and XQuery specs.
Status: Closed; Reviewed and decided to make no changes
ACTION A-658-02 Andy to review XDM
Status: Closed; Found and fixed some minor editorial issues
ACTION A-659-04 Mike to review bug 29789.
Status: Closed; See
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29789#c2
ACTION A-660-01: Jonathan to review Josh's resolution to bug 29858.
Status: Closed; Reported in last meeting
ACTION A-660-02: Jonathan to add resolution of Bug 29975 to XQuery /
XPath.
Status: Closed; Reported in last meeting
ACTION A-660-03: Mike to add resolution of Bug 29975 to XSLT.
Status: Closed; Reported in last meeting
ACTION A-660-06: Jonathan, Andy, Josh to ensure that their documents build
with the new stylesheets.
Status: Closed; Some specs done, new action items opened for remaining
specs
ACTION A-661-03: (Bug 29951) MK to flesh out a proposal for fn:transform
to drop the "saved" option and replace it with a new option whose value is
a user-supplied post-processing function.
Status: Closed; See
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29789#c2
ACTION A-661-05 (Bug 29932) MK to investigate and report. The bug is
apparently a duplicate of 29884 and possibly 29966.
Status: Closed; 29884 & 29966 closed as duplicates of 29932
ACTION A-661-08 (Bug 29965) OND to add a dependency on XSLT 3.0 to these
tests.
Status: Closed; See
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29965#c1
ACTION A-661-11 (Bug 29959 – fn:put) MK: Add reference to fn:put(), EXPath
etc in a non-normative appendix.
Status: Closed; See
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Nov/0036.html
J1.6 Update on related activities
J1.6.1 Update on XSLT WG activities (Sharon, MikeK)
J1.6.2 Update on EXPath/EXQuery CG activities (Mike)
J1.7 Future Meetings
J1.7.1 QT Meeting Schedule
[V45] Joint XML Query/XSL WG meeting schedule
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2016Jul/0003.html
J1.7.2 Future F2F Meetings
J1.7.2.1 Other future F2F meetings
(none)
J2. Documents For Review
(none)
J3. Maintenance Issues
J3.0 The XML Query WG and XSLT WG do not intend to maintains specs
earlier than the 3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches
Recommendation, maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated.
This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other problems
reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) suite of specifications.
J3.0.1 Concerns raised by the XSLT working group in regards to potential
completion delays of XSLT 3.0 if XPath 3.0 is made obsoleted by 3.1
Status: Pending the outcome of Abel's review of 3.0 bugs/errata.
Any change to the status of the 3.0 specs requires explicit XSL WG
consultation.
J3.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of joint XML Query WG and
XSLT WG documents
(none)
J4. Active Specification Development
** Note: Full Text 3.1 has been removed from the WG agenda.
If, in the future, there is sufficient interest (i.e. at least two
independent participants to develop the spec and implementations),
then this can be brought back on the agenda.
J4.1 Data Model 3.1 (Andy)
J4.1.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/src/changes.txt
(none)
J4.2 Functions and Operators 3.1 (Mike Kay)
J4.2.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/src/changes.txt
J4.2.1 Bug 29951 - [FO31] fn-transform "saved"
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29951
Status: Ready to discuss; See proposal in comment #11
J4.3 Serialization 3.1 (Michael Sperberg-McQueen, Andy)
J4.3.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/src/changes.txt
(none)
J4.4 XPath 3.1 (Jonathan)
J4.4.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt
(none)
J4.5 Grammar Test Applets (Michael Dyck)
(none)
J4.6 QT3 test suite (O'Neil)
J4.6.1 Status report on test suite, harness, tools
J4.6.2 Status of 3.1 tests results
Status: Currently five implementers submitted results
J5. Progression of Work
J5.1 XQuery 3.1, XQueryX 3.1, XPath 3.1, XDM 3.1, F&O 3.1, Serialization
3.1
J5.1.1 Current status
* In Candidate Recommendation
* Potential coordination of dates with XSLT 3.0
J5.1.2 Dependencies inhibiting progression
* Detailed review of specifications by WG
Participant assigned to each document for detailed review
- XDM 3.1 - Liam/Andy - completed
- XPath 3.1 - Mike Kay - completed
- F&O 3.1 - Abel - completed
- Serialization 3.1 - Tim - completed
- XQuery 3.1 - Josh
- XQueryX 3.1 - Andy - completed
* Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters
* PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request
* REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request
J5.1.3 Vote to progress to PR
Status: Ready to discuss
J5.2 Update 3.0
J5.2.1 Current Status
* In Last Call Working Draft
At XML Prague, Liam talked to a few people about XQuery Update but found
no great enthusiasm for doing the work. We cannot progress without plans
for a test suite and potential implementers. The WG needs to decide what
to do with this spec.
Status: Ready to discuss
J5.2.2 Require owner of XQUF 3.0 Test Suite
J5.2.3 Dependencies inhibiting progression
* CR Transition Request and authorization, CR pub request
* Completion of test suite minimum-required-to-declare-victory
* Sufficient implementation experience and reports thereof
* Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters
* PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request
* REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request
J6. Any other business
J6.1 Consideration of future work
J6.1.1 QT 3.2
The WGs decided that we will finish the 3.1 documents presently under way,
but undertake no new work. Maintenance work should be planned upon for a
period of time after finishing the specifications.
J6.1.2 FT 3.1
Currently inadequate interest and resources
J6.1.3 Update 3.1
Currently inadequate interest and resources
J7. Adjourn
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XML Query Working Group
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Q1. The XML Query WG does not intend to maintains specs earlier than the
3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches Recommendation,
maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated.
Q1.0 This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other
problems reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) XML Query WG suite of
specifications.
Q1.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of XML Query WG documents
(none)
Q2. Active Specification Development
Q2.1 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 (John)
Q2.1.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/src/changes.txt
* The WG needs to obtain implementation experience with this document.
Q2.2 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 Requirements and Use Cases (Andy)
See
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/requirements/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html
* The WGs need to be certain that this document is completed
(red/yellow/green bullets on requirements, all the use cases intended to
be published) and a decision made to advance it to WG Note.
Q2.3 XQuery 3.1 (Jonathan)
Q2.3.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt
(none)
Q2.4 XQueryX 3.1 (Josh)
Q2.4.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/src/changes.txt
(none)
Q3. Test Suite Development
Q3.1 Update Facility 3.0 Test Suite (????)
* Need test suite developer/manager
* Need tests
Q4. Any other business
Q5. Adjourn
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