- From: Andrew Coleman <andrew_coleman@uk.ibm.com>
- Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2016 15:18:14 +0000
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DRAFT XML Query/XSL WG Joint Teleconference #635 Agenda 2016-03-08
Andy will chair this meeting.
PLEASE SEND CORRECTIONS AND ADDITIONS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO A REVISED
AGENDA CAN BE PREPARED IN A TIMELY MANNER!
Changes in this agenda:
This week, I'd like us to work on the following items:
J4.2 (F&O)
J4.4 (XPath)
J4.6 (Test Suite)
Key:
J = Joint Query/XSLT meeting;
Q = Query-only meeting
Teleconference connection details
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(Member only)
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2015Sep/0014.html
SUMMARY OF DECISIONS
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Note to secretary: Please insert a summary of all decisions made during
this teleconference at this location in the minutes.
Decisions MUST be clear as to their complete intent. The subject of the
decision should *not* require dereferencing; it is most helpful if
agenda numbers and bug numbers are accompanied by their titles. If a
decision is recorded about the resolution of a bug, the decision must
state exactly what the resolution is (e.g., "Accept the solution in
comment #5", or "Replace the production for XXX with this: <new
production>", or the like. It should be possible to read a decision
months later and be certain what it meant and whether or not it was
properly applied.
NEW ACTION ITEMS
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Note to secretary: Please insert all new action items assigned during
this teleconference at this location in the minutes.
Action items MUST make sense even when they are viewed standalone (that
is, not read in the context of the agenda item where they were
assigned). This explicitly requires that all referents (e.g., "this",
"that") be made clear. Action items such as "Ralph to resolve this
problem" are DISALLOWED. It takes a scribe only a few additional
minutes to ensure that action items are clear, while it takes the entire
WG considerable effort to constantly research the meaning of unclear
action items. The subject of the action item should *not* require
dereferencing; it is most helpful if agenda numbers and bug numbers are
accompanied by their titles.
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Joint XML Query Working Group and XSL Working Group
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J1. Administrative Items
J1.1 Selection of secretary(s)
Michael Dyck has been asked to take the minutes. Josh has been asked to
stand by.
NOTE: The chair will confirm the secretary prior to the start of the
meeting.
Most recent secretaries (least-recent participants first):
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(This list identifies the most recent three occasions when each
participant acted as Secretary for the Task Force. The person whose
name is at the top of the list should plan to take the minutes at the
meeting identified by this agenda; if that person is unavailable, then
the job will fall to the next person on the list, etc.
Michael Dyck - 2015-11-17, 2015-09-01, 2015-03-31
Josh Spiegel - 2015-12-01, 2015-09-08, 2015-03-24
Tim Mills - 2015-12-08, 2015-09-15, 2015-04-21
Norm Walsh - 2015-12-15, 2015-09-22, 2015-05-05
Jonathan Robie - 2016-01-05, 2015-09-29, 2015-05-12
John Snelson - 2015-01-12, 2015-07-16, 2015-06-02
Liam Quin - 2016-01-19, 2015-10-06, 2015-06-16
Adam Retter - 2015-01-26, 2015-10-20, 2015-04-21
O'Neil Delpratt - 2016-02-02, 2015-10-27, 2015-06-23
Michael Sprbrg-McQn - 2016-02-09, 2015-10-03, 2015-06-09
Mike Kay - 2016-03-08, 2015-11-10, 2015-07-15
J1.2 Call the Roll -- NOT DONE DURING TELECONFERENCE
Note to secretary: During the meeting, take a note of the Webex
participants, then list in the minutes those present and those who sent
regrets. All others will be presumed to have been absent without regrets.
XML Query WG membership list:
http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=18797&order=org
XSL WG membership list:
http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=19552&order=org
Regrets:
J1.3 Approval of agenda
J1.3.1 Additions, deletions, or corrections?
J1.4 Review of recent minutes and administrative items
J1.4.1 Minutes of meeting #634 (Mike)
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Mar/0010.html
J1.5 Review of action items
NOTE: Please be prepared to respond quickly on your action items!
J1.5.1 Outstanding action items
ACTION A-629-03: Abel to write test cases for the resolution to bug 29346.
Status: Pending; ETA 2016-03-08
ACTION A-629-04: Jonathan Robie to fix bug 29362 by referring to the
definition of op:same-key in F&O
Status: Pending; ETA 2016-03-08
ACTION A-630-01: Mike Kay to propose a resolution on 29373 Missing error
code
when fn:serialize receives a QName method in no namespace
Status: Pending; ETA 2016-03-08
ACTION A-630-06: jonathan to check the wording to make validate {} an
error [bug 29370]
Status: Pending; ETA 2016-03-08
ACTION A-631-02: Jonathan Robie to make the changes in XPath 3.1 as
suggested by Michael Dyck in Bug 29382
Status: Pending; ETA 2016-03-08
ACTION A-632-03: Mike to add a clarification text and example to bug 29415
Status: Pending; ETA 2016-03-08
ACTION A-634-01 (bug 29415) Mike K to fix regex text as proposed in bug
29415 (and close the bug)
Status: Pending; ETA not specified.
ACTION A-634-02 (bug 29404) Mike to propose harmonization of the way that
doc, collection, unparsed-text etc treat invalid URI arguments.
Status: Pending; ETA not specified.
ACTION A-634-03: (bug 29496) MikeK to implement the minuted decision on
bug 29496 and close the bug.
Status: Pending; ETA not specified.
ACTION A-634-04 (bug 29498) Jonathan to ensure that all terms that use RFC
rendition (e.g. "required", "recommended") are listed in the terminology
section.
Status: Pending; ETA not specified.
ACTION A-634-05 (bug 29227) on MDyck to draft alternative wording for this
section that addresses
Status: Pending; ETA not specified.
ACTION A-634-06 (bug 29419) on Abel to either close bug 29419, or propose
spec changes that address the problem.
Status: Pending; ETA not specified.
J1.5.2 Completed action items
Action A-628-01: Liam to discuss the status of XQuery Update 3.0 at XML
Prague.
Status: Closed; See agenda item 5.2.1
ACTION A-629-02: Jonathan Robie to apply the clarification from the
comment 12 of bug 29346 to the spec.
Status: Closed; See
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Mar/0001.html
ACTION A-630-02: O'Neil to remove reporting of the features that aren't in
3.1
(static typing, namespace axis) and tests that are not for 3.1
(e.g. 3.0 or XPath)
Status: Closed; See
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Mar/0013.html
ACTION A-633-01: Andy Coleman to discuss the possible obsoleting of the
3.0 specs with Liam Quin.
Status: Closed; discussed in last telecon; will reopen when 3.1 is a Rec.
ACTION A-633-02: Andy Coleman to change the serialization spec to say
that in the JSON serialization method, "Implementations MAY serialize
the value of a number using any lexical representation of the
xs:double value" or words to that effect. This should resolve bug
29435 (JSON Serialization of numerics).
Status: Closed; See
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Mar/0000.html
ACTION A-633-03: Jonathan Robie to open a new bug on the
classification of functions and terminology for that classification.
Status: Closed; See
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29509
ACTION A-633-04: Jonathan Robie to reword section 3.1.5.1 Evaluating
Static and Dynamic Function Calls of XQuery (and the corresponding
function of XPath) to address Abel Braaksma's observations that (a)
5.b.iv is ill-worded since not every nonlocal variable binding will
necessarily be supplied as an actual parameter, and (b) the parameter
bindings supplied by the partial application should not be commingled
forever with the nonlocal variable bindings.
Status: Closed; See
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Mar/0001.html
J1.6 Update on related activities
J1.6.1 Update on XSLT WG activities (Sharon, MikeK)
J1.6.2 Update on EXPath/EXQuery CG activities (Mike)
J1.7 Future Meetings
J1.7.1 QT Meeting Schedule
[V44] Joint XML Query/XSL WG meeting schedule
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2015Dec/0000.html
J1.7.2 Future F2F Meetings
J1.7.2.1 Other future F2F meetings
None scheduled.
J2. Documents For Review
(none)
J3. Maintenance Issues
J3.0 The XML Query WG and XSLT WG do not intend to maintains specs
earlier than the 3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches
Recommendation, maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated.
This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other problems
reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) suite of specifications.
J3.0.1 Concerns raised by the XSLT working group in regards to potential
completion delays of XSLT 3.0 if XPath 3.0 is made obsoleted by 3.1
Status: Pending the outcome of Abel's review of 3.0 bugs/errata.
Any change to the status of the 3.0 specs requires explicit XSL WG
consultation.
J3.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of joint XML Query WG and
XSLT WG documents
(none)
J4. Active Specification Development
** Note: Full Text 3.1 has been removed from the WG agenda.
If, in the future, there is sufficient interest (i.e. at least two
independent participants to develop the spec and implementations),
then this can be brought back on the agenda.
J4.1 Data Model 3.1 (Norm)
J4.1.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/src/changes.txt
(none)
J4.2 Functions and Operators 3.1 (Mike Kay)
J4.2.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/src/changes.txt
J4.2.1 Bug 29373 - Missing error code when fn:serialize receives a QName
method in no namespace
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29373
Status: Pending completion of A-630-01
J4.2.2 Bug 29404 - [QT3] anyURI in fn:collection
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29404
Status: Pending completion of A-634-02
J4.3 Serialization 3.1 (Michael Sperberg-McQueen, Andy)
J4.3.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/src/changes.txt
(none)
J4.4 XPath 3.1 (Jonathan)
J4.4.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt
J4.4.1 Bug 29277 - [XP31] Evaluating function calls does not mention
evaluation of dynamic or static function calls that have no FunctionBody
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29277
See Michael Dyck's proposal:
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Mar/0008.html
Status: Ready to discuss
J4.4.2 Bug 29501 - [xp31] Colon is not in the list of non-terminal symbols
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29501
Status: Ready to discuss
J4.4.3 Bug 29487 - [XPath31] Section 3.11.3.1 Unary Lookup wrongly
compares array?* to array:flatten
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29487
Status: Ready to discuss
J4.4.4 The longest token rule
See
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Feb/0043.html
Status: Ready to discuss
J4.4.5 Bug 29509 - Functions: External, Implementation-Defined, Host
Language
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29509
Status: Ready to discuss
J4.5 Grammar Test Applets (Michael Dyck)
J4.5.1 Bugzilla Bug 13796, [Applet30] \u escaped characters in grammar
applets
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13796
Status: Pending
J4.6 QT3 test suite (O'Neil)
J4.6.1 Status report on test suite, harness, tools
J4.6.2 Status of 3.1 tests results
Status: Currently three implementers submitted results
J4.6.3 - 13 ignored open bugs in defunct category "XML Query Test Suite",
should these be moved / closed?
See
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Jan/0037.html
Status: Ready to discuss
J4.6.4 Bug 29398 - [QT3] Base uri with parse-xml in fn-parse-xml-011
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29398
Status: Ready to discuss
J4.6.5 Bug 27734 - <assert-xml ignore-prefixes="true"
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=27734
Status: Ready to discuss
J4.6.6 Bug 29515 - The expected result of format-dateTime-011 is incorrect
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29515
Status: Ready to discuss
J5. Progression of Work
J5.1 XSLT 3.0, XQuery 3.1, XQueryX 3.1, XPath 3.1, XDM 3.1, F&O 3.1,
Serialization 3.1
J5.1.1 Current status
* In Candidate Recommendation; awaiting implementation reports
J5.1.2 Dependencies inhibiting progression
* Completion of test suite minimum-required-to-declare-victory
* Sufficient implementation experience and reports thereof
* Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters
* PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request
* REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request
J5.2 Update 3.0
J5.2.1 Current Status
* In Last Call Working Draft
At XML Prague, Liam talked to a few people about XQuery Update but found
no great enthusiasm for doing the work. We cannot progress without plans
for a test suite and potential implementers. The WG needs to decide what
to do with this spec.
Status: Ready to discuss
J5.2.2 Require owner of XQUF 3.0 Test Suite
J5.2.3 Dependencies inhibiting progression
* CR Transition Request and authorization, CR pub request
* Completion of test suite minimum-required-to-declare-victory
* Sufficient implementation experience and reports thereof
* Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters
* PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request
* REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request
J6. Any other business
J6.1 Consideration of future work
J6.1.1 QT 3.2
The WGs decided that we will finish the 3.1 documents presently under way,
but undertake no new work. Maintenance work should be planned upon for a
period of time after finishing the specifications.
J6.1.2 FT 3.1
Currently inadequate interest and resources
J6.1.3 Update 3.1
Currently inadequate interest and resources
J7. Adjourn
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XML Query Working Group
=======================
Q1. The XML Query WG does not intend to maintains specs earlier than the
3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches Recommendation,
maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated.
Q1.0 This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other
problems reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) XML Query WG suite of
specifications.
Q1.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of XML Query WG documents
(none)
Q2. Active Specification Development
Q2.1 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 (John)
Q2.1.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/src/changes.txt
* The WG needs to obtain implementation experience with this document.
Q2.2 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 Requirements and Use Cases (Andy)
See
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/requirements/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html
* The WGs need to be certain that this document is completed
(red/yellow/green bullets on requirements, all the use cases intended to
be published) and a decision made to advance it to WG Note.
Q2.3 XQuery 3.1 (Jonathan)
Q2.3.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt
(none)
Q2.4 XQueryX 3.1 (Josh)
Q2.4.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/src/changes.txt
(none)
Q3. Test Suite Development
Q3.1 Update Facility 3.0 Test Suite (????)
* Need test suite developer/manager
* Need tests
Q4. Any other business
Q5. Adjourn
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