- From: <paul.downey@bt.com>
- Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 16:59:10 +0100
- To: <public-xsd-databinding@w3.org>
Minutes from today's call are now available here:
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/6/5/09-databinding-minutes.html
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Databinding WG Teleconference
9 May 2006
Agenda
See also: IRC log
Attendees
Present
Jon Calladine, (BT)
George Cowe (Origo Services)
Paul Downey (Chair, BT)
Otu Ekanem (BT)
Regrets
Ajith Ranabahu (WSO2)
Chair
pauld
Scribe
pauld
Contents
* Topics
1. ISSUE-34: multiple schemas for a single namespace
2. Administrivia
3. ISSUE-36: Tool selection for testing of basic pattern assertions
4. Contribution of Schemas
5. ISSUE-10: Mapping Element and Type names
6. ISSUE-39: importing components from another namespace
7. ISSUE-40: XML Schema document encoding
8. ISSUE-41: annotation and documentation elements as basic patterns
9. ISSUE-42: schema version and ID attributes as a basic patterns
10. AOB
* Summary of Action Items
ISSUE-34: multiple schemas for a single namespace
pauld: relates progress in the WS-I WG
... preferred outcome?
george: ideal outcome is to have our practice enshired, but as usual practicalities with tools and what our customers want may lead to a different outcome being acceptable.
Administrivia
last weeks minutes approved
canvas of likely f2f participation for the Agenda
expecting WD publication soon
ISSUE-36: Tool selection for testing of basic pattern assertions
discussion of how we work
pauld: "basic" means "Known to work well with current toolkits" and really aimed at schema authors
pauld: "advanced" means "in widespread use and really no reason to not work well with toolkits"
jonc: and "Design Considerations"?
pauld: unhappy about "Design Considerations" becoming a bucket for "weasel words"
pauld: .. e.g. xs:choice doesn't work in Axis ADB and yet is a basic pattern
george: don't forget that Axis is used in many Websphere implementations
pauld: working on the assumption that doesn't work in .NET at least means *doesn't* fit into basic patterns
pauld: we'll enumerate the tools we're aware of subject to ACTION-19
jonc: happy to use the test report as a means of documenting the toolkits we actually used, rather than those we plan to use.
pauld: others can supply evidence of running our tests to get on the CR report
Contribution of Schemas
george: am building an example schema which contains patterns important to Origo
pauld: contribution of individual patterns most helpful in tracking issues and updating our document
pauld: been looking at other vertical schemas, hence last week's DOS attack on the issues list
ISSUE-10: Mapping Element and Type names
pauld: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsd-databinding/2006May/0000
... am fairly unhappy with this proposal, feel we need some testing in this area may clarify matters for the Basic patterns
jonc: Design Consideration is again a little weak for an obvious problem with tools
george: we use a simple naming convention
... unaware of mapping mechanism in Axis or .NET
<scribe> ACTION: pdowney build test cases for ISSUE-10 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/09-databinding-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-37 - Build test cases for ISSUE-10 [on Paul Downey - due 2006-05-16].
jonc: test cases are a good way to document "anti-patterns"
ISSUE-39: importing components from another namespace
pauld: these patterns don't prevent other patterns being added if they interoperate, e.g. multiple schema locations. Our experience is these patterns work well and are good enough.
RESOLUTION: ISSUE-39 closed with enclosed proposed patterns
ISSUE-40: XML Schema document encoding
pauld: took Basic Profile text on schema document encoding, makes sense if we're at least as restrictive, if not more so.
george: happy with this, we currently make use of ISO-8859-1, but expect to move to UTF-8 soon
RESOLUTION: close ISSUE-40 with enclosed proposal
ISSUE-41: annotation and documentation elements as basic patterns
george: unaware of issues with databinding and documentation elements
jonc: seen issues with a large WSDL documents and XMLSpy
pauld: would simple test cases help in this area?
<scribe> ACTION: pdowney to produce a documentation pattern test case [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/09-databinding-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-38 - Produce a documentation pattern test case [on Paul Downey - due 2006-05-16].
ISSUE-42: schema version and ID attributes as a basic patterns
pauld: version discussed in WSDL WG
jonc: does it change anything on the wire?
RESOLUTION: close ISSUE-42 with enclosed proposal
AOB
o2: been working on the automated test kits, making progress
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: pdowney build test cases for ISSUE-10 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/09-databinding-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: pdowney to produce a documentation pattern test case [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/09-databinding-minutes.html#action03]
[End of minutes]
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