- From: Norman Walsh <Norman.Walsh@Sun.COM>
- Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 15:06:43 -0500
- To: Karl Dubost <karl@w3.org>
- Cc: Paul Grosso <pgrosso@arbortext.com>, public-xml-id@w3.org
- Message-id: <878y6etz58.fsf_-_@nwalsh.com>
/ Karl Dubost <karl@w3.org> was heard to say: | I was wondering if you had seen as well | http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-id/2005Jan/0012 No, I had not. And it took me a *a long time* to figure out why. For one thing, it never arrived in my personal mailbox for no reason that I can explain, but then it's also a "follow-up" to a message you posted on the first working draft and my issue tracking tool suppressed that thread because it wasn't from LC1. Sigh. Looking at the message: > Dear XML WG, > > Le 04 août 2004, à 17:43, Karl Dubost a écrit : > > This is a QA review of > > xml:id Version 1.0 > > W3C Working Draft 7 April 2004 > > http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-xml-id-20040407/ > > My initial review of xml:id > > > http://www.w3.org/QA/2004/08/xml-id-qa-review > > We have discussed [1] in the QA WG about one of the Requirement, that I > credited successful, but some people in the QA WG thinks that it > doesn't meet the criteria. > > Looking at > http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-xml-id-20041109/ > > Let's say that the point Requirement 2.2.A [2] is then failed > "Identify who or what will implement the specification." > > To meet the criteria of this requirement in the specification, please > do this modification to your document following the techniques: > > [[[ > Give the classes of products in the specification: > 1. Think about all the types of products or services that will > implement this technology, group those that are similar and/or > basically achieve the same purpose, and determine the generic name for > the group. This would be the class of product. > 2. List these classes of products in the specification. > 3. Describe them as part of the scope. > ]]] - [3] The CR draft clearly identifies that it is the 'xml:id processor' that implements this specification. It goes on to say: "This specification defines xml:id processing, but it is up to the application to determine when such processing occurs. Users of applications that provide facilities for modifying XML documents may reasonably expect xml:id processing to occur whenever a change is made to an ID value." I believe that that satisfies the issue you identified above. > Then as a suggestion for your prose > > ================================================================= > 1. Introduction > 1.1 Scope of xml:id > > Classes of Products > Here is the list of classes of products for which this > specification defines conformance requirements. > * XML Processors > [Prose explaining what's an XML processors] > * DTD and XML Schemas (non required but encouraged) > [Prose explaining why] > * Author of XML documents (non required but encouraged) > [Prose explaining why] > ================================================================= > > What about XML schemas and DTD authoring tools? or more that you might > think of? > > That would make a more satisfying specification. > > 3.2.B [4] is not met as well > "Indicate which conformance requirements are mandatory, which are > recommended and which are optional." > In the conformance section [5] of xml:id, it's very hard to know what > are the strict requirement for an XML processors with regards to > xml:id. That would be good to explicit it in the conformance section, > then the implementers will have no doubts about it. > For now it's lost in the prose of the document. I believe the conformance section now clearly identifies which requirements are manditory and which are not: "Conformance to constraints that \u201cmust\u201d be assured is mandatory. It is recommended that applications assure the other constraints as well. This specification defines no simply optional constraints." > 4.3.A [6] is not met > > I encourage you first to read this message from Dave Marston, IBM [7] > > Suggestion > ================================= > xxx. Extensibility of xml:id > > [Write prose here if you expect people to extend the behaviors already > defined in the specification, if not say so. xml:id is not extensible > and as to be implemented as it is.] > ================================= This is now addressed by Section 8 of the CR draft. I believe that we have addressed all of the issues raised in this message, please let me know if you agree. > [1] http://www.w3.org/mid/5.1.0.14.2.20041227125546.026af9f0@localhost > [2] > http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-qaframe-spec-20041122/#implement-principle > [3] http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-qaframe-spec-20041122/#implement-tech > [4] http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-qaframe-spec-20041122/#req-opt-conf > [5] http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-xml-id-20041109/#xmlid-conformance > [6] http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-qaframe-spec-20041122/#extensibility > [7] > http://www.w3.org/mid/OFAAA57F61.7560A892-ON85256F80.00532649@lotus.com Be seeing you, norm -- Norman.Walsh@Sun.COM / XML Standards Architect / Sun Microsystems, Inc. NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. 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