Agenda for XML Core WG telcon of 2010 July 28

We have an XML Core WG phone call scheduled for Wednesday, 
July 28, from
          08:00-09:00 Pacific time aka
          11:00-12:00 Eastern time aka
          15:00-16:00 UTC 
          16:00-17:00 in Ireland and the UK  
          17:00-18:00 in middle (most of) Europe  
on the Zakim W3C Bridge, +1 617 761 6200, passcode 9652#.
We also use IRC channel #xmlcore on irc.w3.org:6665 .

See the XML Core group page [1] for pointers to current documents
and other information.  If you have additions to the agenda, please
email them to the WG list before the start of the telcon.

Please also review our group page's task list [2] for accuracy and
completeness and be prepared to amend if necessary and accept it
at the beginning of the call.


Regrets from Henry--proxy to Norm.


Agenda
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1. Accepting the minutes from the last telcon [3] and
   the current task status [2] (have any questions, comments,
   or corrections ready by the beginning of the call).


2. Miscellaneous administrivia and document reviews.

TPAC Nov 1-5 in Lyons, France
-----------------------------
Paul indicated that XML Core tentatively plans to have a f2f 
at TPAC, and we are currently scheduled for Monday/Tuesday
1-2 November 2010.

Likely: Henry, Mohamed, Liam, Daniel
Unlikely: Glenn, Paul, Simon, Norm, John

Registration is now open; see http://www.w3.org/2010/11/TPAC/

TAG concern wrt 3023bis, +xml media types and fragids
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Henry sent email about this at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2010Jun/0006

3023bis says that the +xml implies that the resource is suitable for 
processing by generic xml processors.  And it says that such xml
processors should handle fragment ids.  Specifically, handling the
fragment identifiers in an rdf+xml document is not something that a 
generic xml processor could do.

The TAG was leaning toward removing the statement from 3023bis that
says that fragid syntax and semantics is something that any generic
xml processor can handle in a +xml resource.  Noah sent email and
Norm has replied.  See the thread at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010Jun/thread.html#msg125

Somewhat related, Henry sent email about XML fragid interpretation at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2010Jun/0025

Norm and John prefer to allow RDF (and others) to be an exception,
but the rule is that the default treatment is as specified in
XPointer Framework.

Norm and John (among others) weighed in; see the thread at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010Jun/thread.html#msg125
and
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010Jul/thread.html#msg0

Norm's latest (as of July 26, posted July 14) is at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010Jul/0020


3.  XML 1.0--see http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-errata


4.  XML Test Suite.

See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-test-suite

ACTION to Henry:  Construct a test case for the XML test suite 
issues raised by Frans Englich:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-testsuite/2007Mar/ 


5.  Namespaces in XML 1.0/1.1--see
   http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#ns1.0
   and http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#ns1.1.


6.  LEIRIs--see http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#leiri

See
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2010Mar/0045
from Dan Connolly which references
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010Mar/0037

At (among other places)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2010May/0001
Larry Masinter explains the plan, to wit:

 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-iri-3987bis-00#section-1.3
 contains a definition in section 1.3 on "LEIRI proessing" which 
 should in fact be a definition of LEIRI:

  LEIRI:  This term was used in various XML specifications to
      refer to strings that, although not valid IRIs, were
      acceptable input to the processing rules in Section 7.1.

 where Section 7.1 of the same document is intended to contain an
 algorithm that will convert an LEIRI to an IRI.

 If that's adequate for XML Core to change its reference for LEIRI,
 fine, and if you need more, please say so.

A direct reference to Section 7.1 is
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-iri-3987bis-00#section-7.1

Paul sent email to that effect to the TAG at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2010Jul/0027
and
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010Jul/0024

This should close this issue (until 3987bis is an RFC).


7.  xml:id--see http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-id


8.  XML Base 2nd Ed--see http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-base


9.  XLink 1.1.

See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xlink1.1

The XLink 1.1 Rec was published at
http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/REC-xlink11-20100506/


10.  XInclude 3rd Ed--see http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xinclude


11.  Associating Stylesheets.

See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#assoc-ss

Our latest public draft is at
http://www.w3.org/XML/2010/04/xml-stylesheet/

The transition request for AssocSS is at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2010Apr/0034

We had an unsuccessful transition call last week.  See
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2010Apr/0057

The editors drafted new wording for Section 2 Conformance; see
http://www.w3.org/XML/2010/05/xml-stylesheet/
http://www.w3.org/XML/2010/05/xml-stylesheet/diff.html

Paul sent email to Daniel Glazman and TimBL requesting comment at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2010May/0012
and there has been no response.

Liam talked to TimBL July 1 and sent some sketchy email at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2010Jul/0002
explaining what we should do next. 

At our telcon last week, Paul took an action to suggest some
change to our latest AssocSS draft, but at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2010Jul/0028
he threw in the towel suggesting that we just re-request
that we take the latest AssocSS draft to PER.


12.  xml-model

See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#assoc-schemas

This has been published as a WG Note at
http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/NOTE-xml-model-20100415/


paul

[1] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core
[2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#tasks
[3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2010Jul/0025

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