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Re: close ISSUE-40: A glossary of the preferred terms used for talking about the WebId architecture

From: Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 10:37:05 +0200
Cc: WebID Incubator Group WG <public-xg-webid@w3.org>
Message-Id: <B78359E2-607C-4FB4-A9D5-69257EA240D1@bblfish.net>
To: Jürgen Jakobitsch <j.jakobitsch@semantic-web.at>
Hi Jurgen.

  thanks for your reply. Since you are very interested in the thesaurus project, we won't close the issue but just put you in charge of it. I like the idea of having it up as a wiki where members of this group can login with their webid and edit it. I think that would be a nice little use case too.

  I can see the following todos then:

   -1 have a server which we can use and login and members of the team can update the ontology
   -2 set some goals for what should be up there (I am not a thesaurus specialist, so I don't really know what we should be trying to do here)

    I have added that here
     ACTION-48: Jürgen Jakobitsch to put up thesaurus wiki available to team
 To report back in a couple of weeks. You don't seem to be an official member of the XG - if you want just ask for it - so I put it down as an action for me. But I can add you to the team for sure. Just send me your webid.

If possible it would be really nice if you could have your endpoint generate the EARL as described here

   so that we can help you debug your implementation, and so that we can write a report on what is supported in the community. This can then be very useful in helping us provide guidelines for what formats people should support when deploying webid profiles, and for adding elements to the spec in a way guided by deployments.


On 20 Oct 2011, at 09:45, Jürgen Jakobitsch wrote:

> hi all,
> ... --- ... (save our skos)
> as you know, we have set up a poolparty demo server [1] to which one can log on using webID.
> this server can be used to easily create a skos thesaurus.
> i could add all members of webID#we [2] to the user database to grant them access and
> support every single one in creating concepts.
> i'm convinced from the bottom of my heart that creating a thesaurus is always an extremly good idea.
> keep in mind : you all know the terms and conditions relating to the webID topic, but many who
> are in decision-position or simply interested do not, a thesaurus would certainly help.
> besides that i would consider creating and publishing a thesaurus simply a matter of principle and good linked manners...
> some words on the possible settings for a thesaurus created with poolparty :
> 1. every baseURL can be used to create linked data (i.e.: http://vocab.webid.info)
> 2. concept URIs are following this pattern : {baseURL}/{projectName}/{prefLabel}
>   some samples of concept uris that are possible:
>   vocab.webid.info/terms/conceptX
>   glossary.webid.info/webid/conceptX
>   ...
>   the sub-domain should be point to our server so the concepts are really linked.
>   anyway the thesaurus could also be exported on a regular basis and hosted elsewhere.
> 3. with poolparty there's the possibility to link the concept to other resources using lookups.
>   (of interest would be besides standard lookups like dbpedia, sindice, freebase and LCSH for example
>    an experimental google-patent lookup or an epo (european patent office) [3] lookup.
> there are then a couple of possibilities to fill the thesaurus :
> 1. one of members of [2] gets the task and gets an introduction to use poolparty from me
> 2. there's a community effort, we then could do a telco where everybody is informed how to use the thesaurus
> 3. i could also personally do it, in case others don't want or don't have the time to (i'd be happy to do so).
> meanwhile you can find an example of a webID-thesaurus-sample i did, when setting up the server here [4]
> please note that there are of course many other ways to create a thesaurus and this is only a suggestion.
> wkr http://www.turnguard.com/turnguard
> [1] pilot5.poolparty.biz/PoolParty
> [2] www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/team#we
> [3] www.epo.org
> [4] http://pilot5.poolparty.biz/WebID/Authentication
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Henry Story" <henry.story@bblfish.net>
> To: "WebID Incubator Group WG" <public-xg-webid@w3.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 12:40:54 AM
> Subject: close  ISSUE-40: A glossary of the preferred terms used for talking about the WebId architecture
> It turns out that not much has happened in this respect on the  wiki here:
>   http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/wiki/Terminology
> There is a terminology section in the spec in any case
>   http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/spec/#terminology
> Are there terms that need to be added to the spec?
> 	Henry
> Social Web Architect
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