RE: Uncertainty Ontology

I am assuming everyone can set up a filter for public-xg emails so 
they don't clutter up our inboxes.

K

At 9:00 PM +0300 6/15/07, Giorgos Stoilos wrote:
>  > -----Original Message-----
>>  From: Kashyap, Vipul [mailto:VKASHYAP1@PARTNERS.ORG]
>>  Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 5:25 PM
>>  To: gstoil@image.ece.ntua.gr; Kathryn Blackmond Laskey; mkokar@ece.neu.edu
>>  Cc: public-xg-urw3@w3.org
>>  Subject: RE: Uncertainty Ontology
>>
>>
>>  I would propose that instead of cluttering people's e-mail, we should add
>>  our
>>  comments directly on the wiki page..
>>
>>  This will be the best way to exchange ideas. The biggest advantage being
>>  that if
>>  someone else has already said something similar, you can do +1 to it...
>>
>
>I do not agree with this. Imagine 7+ people discussing about the same thing,
>replying or commenting to the argument of other people etc, replying on
>replies and all these say for a weak. This would be a nightmare to have and
>manage on the wiki. It could easily create something that after some time is
>unreadable. An archived (and threaded) mailing list is the way things are
>going on, on every W3C activity so far some of which are far larger than
>this one (20+ people).
>
>On the other hand we can put summaries of our discussion or concrete results
>on the wiki.
>
>-gstoil
>
>p.s. I agree with Umberto that we should use OWL to build an Uncertainty
>ontology. Then we can all agree with the semantics of what is proposed.
>
>>  My point of disagreement with Mitch was the following:
>>
>>  I view Bayesian networks, Fuzzy Logic, Dempster Schaeffer, etc. as
>>  representation/reasoning tools on uncertain information.
>>  So the proposal was: let's have two classes in the ontology:
>>  - Uncertainty
>>  - Techniques for dealing with Uncertainty...
>>
>>  Mitch seemed to suggest that these things categorized different types of
>>  uncertainty, though in my mind, given a piece of uncertain information, I
>>  can
>>  use any of the above techniques (possibly inappropriately) to represent
>>  and
>>  reason with it.
>>
>>  ... Will post this on the wiki soon...
>>
>>  ---Vipul
>>
>>  =======================================
>>  Vipul Kashyap, Ph.D.
>>  Senior Medical Informatician
>>  Clinical Informatics R&D, Partners HealthCare System
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>>  To keep up you need the right answers; to get ahead you need the right
>>  questions
>>  ---John Browning and Spencer Reiss, Wired 6.04.95
>>
>>  > -----Original Message-----
>>  > From: gstoil@image.ece.ntua.gr [mailto:gstoil@image.ece.ntua.gr]
>>  > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 10:17 AM
>>  > To: Kathryn Blackmond Laskey; Giorgos Stoilos; mkokar@ece.neu.edu;
>>  > Kashyap, Vipul
>>  > Cc: public-xg-urw3@w3.org
>>  > Subject: Re: Uncertainty Ontology
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > I know that. That's why I did not send this mail as a reply to Paulo's
>>  > one.
>>  >
>>  > I just remember some specific discussion, I think it was Vipul
>>  questioning
>>  > about something about the differences on the types of uncertainties,
>>  > taking
>>  > place during the telecon. I also remember someone saying: "...discuss
>>  over
>>  > mail with Vipul and then summarize to the group." I wanted to make sure
>>  if
>>  > I
>>  > lister correctly or there is going to be a public discussion over mail
>>  > about
>>  > this issue, cause I haven't seen any mail so far (beware that Paulo's
>>  mail
>>  > was
>>  > *not* about the specific issue but about the uncertainty ontology in
>>  > general).
>>  >
>>  > Greetings,
>>  > -gstoil
>>  >
>>  > Kathryn Blackmond Laskey <klaskey@gmu.edu> said:
>>  >
>>  > > Paulo was referring to Mitch's preliminary draft ontology of
>>  > > uncertainty, which he posted to the Wiki:
>>  > >    http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/urw3/wiki/UncertaintyOntology
>>  > >
>>  > > At 11:05 AM +0300 6/15/07, Giorgos Stoilos wrote:
>>  > > >Hi all,
>>  > > >
>>  > > >Is the discussion about the differences on the types of
>  > > > >uncertainties, that took place on the telecon, taking place, or it
>>  > > >hasn't started yet? I believe that it would be very helpful for the
>>  > > >entire group to participate.
>>  > > >
>>  > > >Best,
>>  > > >-gstoil
>>  > >
>>  >
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