- From: VassilisTzouvaras <tzouvaras@image.ntua.gr>
- Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 19:25:52 +0200
- To: "'Hausenblas, Michael'" <michael.hausenblas@joanneum.at>, "'Oscar Celma'" <ocelma@iua.upf.edu>, "'Raphaël Troncy'" <Raphael.Troncy@cwi.nl>
- Cc: "'MMSem-XG Public List'" <public-xg-mmsem@w3.org>
Dear all, The vocabulary document includes already most of the multimedia vocabularies/standards. However, it doesn't cover any vocabularies/standards from the digital libraries and cultural domain, which are in the scope of this XG. Digital libraries and culture heritage archives have their own standards like Cidoc-CRM, AMICO, MARC, OAI for metadata harvesting and many others. These standards are in use from a large community and in the current document it seems that they are not covered. Also, there has been an effort to connect the XG with this community. I suggest and volunteer to cover these standards. We can have a section for digital libraries and cultural heritage archives metadata standards in the vocabulary document. Also, I believe that we should also cover thesauri vocabularies (e.g. SKOS, UNESCO) that play important role in semantic and multilingual interoperability. Regards, Vassilis > -----Original Message----- > From: public-xg-mmsem-request@w3.org [mailto:public-xg-mmsem- > request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Hausenblas, Michael > Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:39 AM > To: Oscar Celma > Cc: Raphaël Troncy; MMSem-XG Public List > Subject: RE: [MMSEM-Vocabulary] Request for contribution (audio vocabularies) > > > Oscar, > > I've now updated our Vocabulary page [1] w.r.t. the audio standards: > > + removed AMG/CDDB > + updated MusicBrainz > + added MusicXML > > Could you please go into detail with MPEG and XMF stuff; and: I'm not so sure > how to handle the > Kanzaki and the Foafing vocabularies - any ideas where to put it? (sec. 5 or sec. > 6) > > Looking at [2] tells me that you _indeed_ have a wiki account (at least you edited > your RDF description on 2006-11-14 with it :) > So, please, would you be so kind performing further changes directly on the Voc- > page [1]? > > Cheers, > Michael > > > [1] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Vocabularies > [2] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/OscarCelma > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Michael Hausenblas, MSc. > Institute of Information Systems & Information Management > JOANNEUM RESEARCH Forschungsgesellschaft mbH > Steyrergasse 17, A-8010 Graz, AUSTRIA > > <office> > phone: +43-316-876-1193 (fax:-1191) > e-mail: michael.hausenblas@joanneum.at > web: http://www.joanneum.at/iis/ > <https://webmail.joanneum.at/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.joanneum > .at/iis/> > > <private> > mobile: +43-660-7621761 > web: http://www.sw-app.org/ > <https://webmail.joanneum.at/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.sw- > app.org/> > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > ________________________________ > > From: Oscar Celma [mailto:ocelma@iua.upf.edu] > Sent: Thu 2006-11-23 18:22 > To: Hausenblas, Michael > Cc: Raphaël Troncy; Christian Halaschek-Wiener; MMSem-XG Public List > Subject: Re: [MMSEM-Vocabulary] Request for contribution (audio vocabularies) > > > > Dear Micheal, > > Here's a long mail (I do not have a wiki account yet, so please > copy/paste to the wiki whatever you think is useful...) > > Hausenblas, Michael wrote: > > Raphaël, Oscar, All, > > > > 4. W.r.t. the audio MM standards IMHO a bit of expertise from Oscar > > would be of great help ... :) > > Raphaël said: > > "Furthermore, are "All Music Guide (AMG)", "MusicBrainz Metadata > Initiative 2.1" and "Compact Disc Database (CDDB)" really vocabularies ?" > > I would say neither AMG (although they have some interesting taxonomies > with regard to genre/styles) nor CDDB are really vocabularies. > In my opinion ID3 specification is not clear enough (and very wide), the > more concrete thing they propose is a list of genres. > On the other hand, MusicBrainz it is a vocabulary! > > Moreover, some of these vocabularies should be taken into account, too > (I've tried to add the categorization proposed whenever it was possible): > > * Musicbrainz Schema > MusicBrainz defined an RDFS definition [1] (you can see the HTML output > at [2]). Instances in RDF are available via their query language (see > some results at [3]). An example of their MQ query is: > > <mq:FindAlbum> > <mq:depth>1</mq:depth> > <mq:artistName>Pink Floyd</mq:artistName> > <mq:albumName>Dark Side of the Moon</mq:albumName> > </mq:FindAlbum> > > -- Musicbrainz Discriminator/Category: > Representation RDF (R) / RDFS > Content Type audio (A) > Workflow production > Domain generic > Industry music > > [1] http://www.ldodds.com/projects/musicbrainz/schema/index.rdf > [2] http://www.ldodds.com/projects/musicbrainz/schema/mb.html > [3] http://musicbrainz.org/MM/mq_examples.html > > * In [4], there are lots of resources about Music Notation and XML. From > the list available in [4], I would like to mention: > > + MusicXML [5], by Michael Good (Recordare). > "Recordare has developed MusicXML technology to create an > Internet-friendly method of publishing musical scores, enabling > musicians and music fans to get more out of their online music." > The DTD specification is available at [6]. > > -- MusicXML Discriminator/Category: > Representation XML (X) / DTDs > Content Type audio (A) > Workflow production > Domain generic > Industry music > > + MPEG Ad Hoc Group on Symbolic Music Representation, lead by Paolo Nesi > (see [7]) are working on the standarization process of music notation. > Don't know the current status, though. > > -- MPEG Ad Hoc Group Discriminator/Category: > Representation XML (X) / DTDs? > Content Type audio (A) > Workflow production > Domain generic > Industry music > > + XMF > The Extensible Music Format (XMF) [8] is a family of music-related file > formats created and administered by the MIDI Manufacturer's Association. > It is based on MIDI files. > Their goal is (quoted from the website): > > "Create an open standard file format for gathering together into a > single file all media assets (and/or links to external media assets) > required to render a MIDI note-based piece (or suite of related pieces) > in a computer-based player (or possibly an instrument) with consistent > audio playback across all players and platforms, and suited for > interactivity, content protection, meta-data, and the Internet - and > keep it simple." > > [4] http://www.oasis-open.org/cover/xmlMusic.html > [5] http://www.recordare.com/xml.html > [6] http://www.recordare.com/dtds/index.html > [7] http://www.interactivemusicnetwork.org/mpeg-ahg/index.html > [8] http://www.midi.org/about-midi/xmf/ > > * Then there are other small projects/proposals such as: > > + The Kanzaki music ontlogy [9] > Quoted from the website: > "A vocabulary to describe classical music and performances. Classes > (categories) for musical work, event, instrument and performers, as well > as related properties are defined. Make sure to distinguish musical > works (e.g. Opera) from performance/event (Opera_Performance), or works > (String_Quartette) from performer (StringQuartetEnsemble in this vocab), > whose natural language terms are used interchangeblly. The present > version experiments more precise model to describe a musical work, its > representations (performances, scores, etc) and a musical event to > present a representation (a concert). Includes 30 keys as individuals." > > -- Kanzaki Music Performance ontology Group Discriminator/Category: > Representation OWL DL > Content Type audio (A) > Workflow premeditation? / production? > Domain generic > Industry music > > [9] http://www.kanzaki.com/ns/music > > + Last but not least, there is the music ontology [10] used by Foafing > the Music project [11]. It includes some descriptors automatically > extracted from the audio (e.g. Key and mode, beats per minute, meter, > intensity, etc.) > > -- Foafing the music ontology Group Discriminator/Category: > Representation OWL DL > Content Type audio (A) > Workflow premeditation > Domain generic > Industry music > > [10] http://foafing-the-music.iua.upf.edu/ISWC2006 > [11] http://foafing-the-music.iua.upf.edu/ > > > That's all for now! > > Regards, > > Oscar Celma > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > >
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