- From: Hausenblas, Michael <michael.hausenblas@joanneum.at>
- Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 23:38:30 +0100
- To: "Oscar Celma" <ocelma@iua.upf.edu>
- Cc: Raphaël Troncy <Raphael.Troncy@cwi.nl>, "MMSem-XG Public List" <public-xg-mmsem@w3.org>
Oscar, I've now updated our Vocabulary page [1] w.r.t. the audio standards: + removed AMG/CDDB + updated MusicBrainz + added MusicXML Could you please go into detail with MPEG and XMF stuff; and: I'm not so sure how to handle the Kanzaki and the Foafing vocabularies - any ideas where to put it? (sec. 5 or sec. 6) Looking at [2] tells me that you _indeed_ have a wiki account (at least you edited your RDF description on 2006-11-14 with it :) So, please, would you be so kind performing further changes directly on the Voc-page [1]? Cheers, Michael [1] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Vocabularies [2] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/OscarCelma ---------------------------------------------------------- Michael Hausenblas, MSc. Institute of Information Systems & Information Management JOANNEUM RESEARCH Forschungsgesellschaft mbH Steyrergasse 17, A-8010 Graz, AUSTRIA <office> phone: +43-316-876-1193 (fax:-1191) e-mail: michael.hausenblas@joanneum.at web: http://www.joanneum.at/iis/ <https://webmail.joanneum.at/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.joanneum.at/iis/> <private> mobile: +43-660-7621761 web: http://www.sw-app.org/ <https://webmail.joanneum.at/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.sw-app.org/> ---------------------------------------------------------- ________________________________ From: Oscar Celma [mailto:ocelma@iua.upf.edu] Sent: Thu 2006-11-23 18:22 To: Hausenblas, Michael Cc: Raphaël Troncy; Christian Halaschek-Wiener; MMSem-XG Public List Subject: Re: [MMSEM-Vocabulary] Request for contribution (audio vocabularies) Dear Micheal, Here's a long mail (I do not have a wiki account yet, so please copy/paste to the wiki whatever you think is useful...) Hausenblas, Michael wrote: > Raphaël, Oscar, All, > > 4. W.r.t. the audio MM standards IMHO a bit of expertise from Oscar > would be of great help ... :) > Raphaël said: > "Furthermore, are "All Music Guide (AMG)", "MusicBrainz Metadata Initiative 2.1" and "Compact Disc Database (CDDB)" really vocabularies ?" I would say neither AMG (although they have some interesting taxonomies with regard to genre/styles) nor CDDB are really vocabularies. In my opinion ID3 specification is not clear enough (and very wide), the more concrete thing they propose is a list of genres. On the other hand, MusicBrainz it is a vocabulary! Moreover, some of these vocabularies should be taken into account, too (I've tried to add the categorization proposed whenever it was possible): * Musicbrainz Schema MusicBrainz defined an RDFS definition [1] (you can see the HTML output at [2]). Instances in RDF are available via their query language (see some results at [3]). An example of their MQ query is: <mq:FindAlbum> <mq:depth>1</mq:depth> <mq:artistName>Pink Floyd</mq:artistName> <mq:albumName>Dark Side of the Moon</mq:albumName> </mq:FindAlbum> -- Musicbrainz Discriminator/Category: Representation RDF (R) / RDFS Content Type audio (A) Workflow production Domain generic Industry music [1] http://www.ldodds.com/projects/musicbrainz/schema/index.rdf [2] http://www.ldodds.com/projects/musicbrainz/schema/mb.html [3] http://musicbrainz.org/MM/mq_examples.html * In [4], there are lots of resources about Music Notation and XML. From the list available in [4], I would like to mention: + MusicXML [5], by Michael Good (Recordare). "Recordare has developed MusicXML technology to create an Internet-friendly method of publishing musical scores, enabling musicians and music fans to get more out of their online music." The DTD specification is available at [6]. -- MusicXML Discriminator/Category: Representation XML (X) / DTDs Content Type audio (A) Workflow production Domain generic Industry music + MPEG Ad Hoc Group on Symbolic Music Representation, lead by Paolo Nesi (see [7]) are working on the standarization process of music notation. Don't know the current status, though. -- MPEG Ad Hoc Group Discriminator/Category: Representation XML (X) / DTDs? Content Type audio (A) Workflow production Domain generic Industry music + XMF The Extensible Music Format (XMF) [8] is a family of music-related file formats created and administered by the MIDI Manufacturer's Association. It is based on MIDI files. Their goal is (quoted from the website): "Create an open standard file format for gathering together into a single file all media assets (and/or links to external media assets) required to render a MIDI note-based piece (or suite of related pieces) in a computer-based player (or possibly an instrument) with consistent audio playback across all players and platforms, and suited for interactivity, content protection, meta-data, and the Internet - and keep it simple." [4] http://www.oasis-open.org/cover/xmlMusic.html [5] http://www.recordare.com/xml.html [6] http://www.recordare.com/dtds/index.html [7] http://www.interactivemusicnetwork.org/mpeg-ahg/index.html [8] http://www.midi.org/about-midi/xmf/ * Then there are other small projects/proposals such as: + The Kanzaki music ontlogy [9] Quoted from the website: "A vocabulary to describe classical music and performances. Classes (categories) for musical work, event, instrument and performers, as well as related properties are defined. Make sure to distinguish musical works (e.g. Opera) from performance/event (Opera_Performance), or works (String_Quartette) from performer (StringQuartetEnsemble in this vocab), whose natural language terms are used interchangeblly. The present version experiments more precise model to describe a musical work, its representations (performances, scores, etc) and a musical event to present a representation (a concert). Includes 30 keys as individuals." -- Kanzaki Music Performance ontology Group Discriminator/Category: Representation OWL DL Content Type audio (A) Workflow premeditation? / production? Domain generic Industry music [9] http://www.kanzaki.com/ns/music + Last but not least, there is the music ontology [10] used by Foafing the Music project [11]. It includes some descriptors automatically extracted from the audio (e.g. Key and mode, beats per minute, meter, intensity, etc.) -- Foafing the music ontology Group Discriminator/Category: Representation OWL DL Content Type audio (A) Workflow premeditation Domain generic Industry music [10] http://foafing-the-music.iua.upf.edu/ISWC2006 [11] http://foafing-the-music.iua.upf.edu/ That's all for now! Regards, Oscar Celma -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
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