- From: Panzer,Michael <panzerm@oclc.org>
- Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:02:44 -0400
- To: <public-xg-lld@w3.org>
Hi everyone,
The minutes of our last telecon are at
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/16-lld-minutes.html
.
A text version follows.
Cheers,
Michael
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
LLD XG
16 Jun 2011
[2]Agenda
[2]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011Jun/0025.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2011/06/16-lld-irc
Attendees
Present
dvilasuero, emma, AlexanderH, michaelp, tbaker, antoine,
rsinger, rayd, jneubert, kefo, GordonD, edsu, monica, LarsG,
pmurray, digikim
Regrets
William, Marcia, Lars, Jeff
Chair
Emmanuelle
Scribe
Michael
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Admin
2. [6]Final report -- reviews
3. [7]"LIBRARY LINKED DATA": SCOPE OF THIS REPORT (Karen,
Peter, Tom, Gordon, Jodi)
4. [8]BENEFITS OF LINKED DATA (Ed, Emmanuelle, Ross)
5. [9]RELEVANT TECHNOLOGIES (Jeff)
6. [10]IMPLEMENTATION CHALLENGES AND BARRIERS TO ADOPTION
(Karen, Peter, Tom, Gordon, Jodi)
7. [11]RECOMMENDATIONS AND NEXT STEPS (Karen, Peter, Tom,
Gordon, Jodi)
8. [12]LIBRARY LINKED DATA: VOCABULARIES AND DATASETS -
SEPARATE DELIVERABLE (Antoine, Jeff, Marcia, William)
9. [13]USE CASES (Daniel) - SEPARATE DELIVERABLE
10. [14]TRANSITION TO W3C COMMUNITY GROUP
* [15]Summary of Action Items
_________________________________________________________
<tbaker> Previous:
[16]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/09-lld-minu
tes.html
[16]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/09-lld-minutes.html
<tbaker> emma, do you know who sent regrets?
<kcoyle> [17]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/ScribeDuty
[17] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/ScribeDuty
<emma> Scribe: Michael
<emma> scribenick: michaelp
Admin
<emma> [18]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/RunningAgenda
[18] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/RunningAgenda
Emma: Minutes of last telecon accepted.
<digikim_> monica :)
<scribe> ACTION: Tom to send email to the LOD-LAM participants and
create a final version of the presentation [recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/26-lld-minu
tes.html#action01] [DONE]
[19]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/26-lld-minutes.html
#action01
<tbaker> The LOD-LAM presentation is at
[20]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/File:Lldxg-summary.ppt
x
[20]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/File:Lldxg-summary.pptx
Final report -- reviews
Emma: Open action on getting comments and reviews
Emma: Karen suggested using blog for comments
... We need someone to setup a WordPress blog and copy parts of
review
<monica> why cam we not use digress.it site?
<digikim_> kcoule +1
Karen: We have gotten no replies from the public list. Approaching
single individuals more succesful.
<antoine> the principle is ok, but I'm not sure we want to
centralize it!
Emma: Targetting contributers could be more efficient.
<digikim_> kcoyle: yes, I just sent the email to the two people at
the national library of finland and said that you need to comment on
this, to resque the world ;)
<Zakim> tbaker, you wanted to say that the chairs have approached
alot of people
Karen: We don't happen to get general comments
TomB: We have sent out a lot of mails and had gotten a very good
response rate from potential commenters.
... We asked to review particular sections.
<emma>
[21]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/DraftReportReviewerAss
ignments
[21]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/DraftReportReviewerAssignments
Karen: I am concerned about responses specifically from the library
community.
<antoine> Aren't we going to send to
[22]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Dissemination_Lists ?
[22] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Dissemination_Lists
<kcoyle> antoine, i don't think that sending to lists is going to
get the attention of the people we need to reach
Emma: We have people from inside the group.
<emma>
[23]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011Jun/0023.h
tml
[23]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011Jun/0023.html
Emma: We have prepared a call for comments.
... Ok for sending this Call for Comments on the list?
<antoine> karen: well, at least it will be a wider than the lld
alone! And of course that should not prevent us from trying personal
requests. It's just that I don't think we should/can centralize that
Antoine: I like the idea of members contacting outside people
personally.
... I also wanted to point out that the call would also be send to a
wider audience.
Emma: Any objections to the draft of the Call?
<dvilasuero> +1 to draft call
<scribe> ACTION: Co-chairs to draft message to the community about
review between 16 June and 20 July - post before next call, on 16
June [recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/09-lld-minu
tes.html#action02] [DONE]
[24]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/09-lld-minutes.html
#action02
<Zakim> antoine, you wanted to comment on adding blog to the call
Antoine: Do we want to add a blog reference/link to the Call?
Emma: Karen, do you have a platform in mind?
Monica: I think we could host it, but have to check if it will be
open to anyone.
Karen: We could use Blogspot, etc.
... But is this gonna work? I am wondering if this would trigger
specific comments.
Emma: W3C would probably not comfortable with a public plattform.
Monica: How long do we expect the blog to be accessible?
<antoine> 2 months?
Emma: Duration of the review process, 2 month.
<pmurray> I don't think we need to keep the comment blog around for
a long time.
<antoine> we can just save the comments as HTML and upload them on
the wiki, if we want an archive...
<pmurray> antoine: +1
Monica: We could set it up if it is not for a long period.
<dvilasuero> antoine +1
<pmurray> I think it would be useful as a short term tool, not a
long term preservation of commentary.
<scribe> ACTION: Antoine and Emmanuelle to talk about strategies for
getting comments at next call [recorded in
[25]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minu
tes.html#action15] [DONE]
[25]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minutes.html
#action15
Karen: We can split the blog up into sections that are moderated.
Emma: We need the URL for the blog before the Call for Comments can
go out.
<scribe> ACTION: Monica to set up blog for comments on Monday
[recorded in
[26]http://www.w3.org/2011/06/16-lld-minutes.html#action05]
[26] http://www.w3.org/2011/06/16-lld-minutes.html#action05
<scribe> ACTION: Jeff and William to propose text on microdata and
schema.org - where in the report it should be discussed [recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/09-lld-minu
tes.html#action03] [DONE]
[27]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/09-lld-minutes.html
#action03
<emma>
[28]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011Jun/0026.h
tml
[28]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011Jun/0026.html
Emma: We have to discuss how to integrate comments we are receiving
... Topic for next week.
"LIBRARY LINKED DATA": SCOPE OF THIS REPORT (Karen, Peter, Tom, Gordon,
Jodi)
<scribe> ACTION: everyone to read
[29]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Benefits#.22Library_Li
nked_Data.22:_Scope_of_this_report and do lightweight review
[recorded in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minu
tes.html#action04] [DONE]
[29]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Benefits#.22Library_Linked_Dat
a.22:_Scope_of_this_report
[30]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minutes.html
#action04
<tbaker> +1 close action
<scribe> ACTION: Jodi to send email about Scope statement [recorded
in
[31]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minu
tes.html#action05] [DONE]
[31]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minutes.html
#action05
BENEFITS OF LINKED DATA (Ed, Emmanuelle, Ross)
<scribe> ACTION: Karen to edit the Benefits section [recorded in
[32]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/26-lld-minu
tes.html#action06] [DONE]
[32]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/26-lld-minutes.html
#action06
<emma>
[33]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011May/0080.h
tml
[33]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011May/0080.html
<tbaker> +1 - have asked
<scribe> ACTION: Tom to ask Hideaki or Dickson to review
[34]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Benefits recorded in
[35]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minu
tes.html#action06] [DONE]
[34] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Benefits
[35]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minutes.html
#action06
RELEVANT TECHNOLOGIES (Jeff)
<scribe> ACTION: Gordon to review Relevant Technologies [recorded in
[36]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/09-lld-minu
tes.html#action04] [CONTINUED]
[36]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/09-lld-minutes.html
#action04
<GordonD> OK to add Gordon to list of reviewers
IMPLEMENTATION CHALLENGES AND BARRIERS TO ADOPTION (Karen, Peter, Tom,
Gordon, Jodi)
<antoine> in
[37]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Library_standards_and_
linked_data there are things that relate to problems
[37]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Library_standards_and_linked_d
ata
Karen: I don't really see a place for this in the report, because it
doesn't really relate to problems and limitations.
<antoine> E.g. Q: How can libraries be encouraged to "free" their
records?
<Zakim> tbaker, you wanted to ask if it might be folded into
Available Vocabularies deliverable
Karen: I looked at the available vocabularies, but it looked like it
is not meant to be comprehensive.
... Should we add to it?
... A lot of what is in Library Standards is not about vocabs or
data sets.
<emma>
[38]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Library_Data_Resources
[38]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Library_Data_Resources
TomB: I am just wondering of the scope of this vocab and dataset
deliverable could be expanded to accomodate what is already in there
... It would be a pity not to publish some of the discussion there.
<antoine>
[39]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Library_Data_Resources
[39]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Library_Data_Resources
Antoine: Would this just apply to the page/link above?
<emma>
[40]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Library_standards_and_
linked_data
[40]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Library_standards_and_linked_d
ata
Karen: We want to expand this other page to accomodate vocabs.
<tbaker> I wasn't suggesting the pages be combined mechanically -
not everything necessarily needs to be integrated into a formal
deliverable
Emma: Maybe we could just freeze the two pages and identify places
where we could point to them.
Antoine: Library Data Resources is about library standards. Could
the vocab page point there?
<monica> maybe we can make an even stronger statement "we highly
recommend that you read link for background on topic xxx"
Emma: Can we include some as issues for further discussion?
<GordonD> Before freezing the Library Data Resources page, I will
update it ...
Karen: All the key issues here have gone into the issues section,
just worded differently.
<scribe> ACTION: Karen and Antoine to relate Library Data Resources
and Library Standards and Linked data [recorded in
[41]http://www.w3.org/2011/06/16-lld-minutes.html#action12]
[41] http://www.w3.org/2011/06/16-lld-minutes.html#action12
<scribe> ACTION: Gordon and Karen to consider relation between
problems and limitation section and the library resource wiki page.
[recorded in
[42]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/03/24-lld-minu
tes.html#action01] [DONE]
[42]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/03/24-lld-minutes.html
#action01
RECOMMENDATIONS AND NEXT STEPS (Karen, Peter, Tom, Gordon, Jodi)
<emma>
[43]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-lld/2011May/0052.html
[43]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-lld/2011May/0052.html
<scribe> ACTION: Jeff to review
[44]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Draft_recommendations_
page for next week [recorded in
[45]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minu
tes.html#action12] [DONE]
[44]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Draft_recommendations_page
[45]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minutes.html
#action12
<monica> Draft Report blog - [46]http://blogs.ukoln.ac.uk/w3clld/ :)
[46] http://blogs.ukoln.ac.uk/w3clld/
<monica> I will make some cosmetic changes on Monday and start call
for emails of editors
<antoine> monica++
<kcoyle> monica++!
<dvilasuero> monica +1
<scribe> ACTION: Tom to ask Dickson and Guenther if they could
contribute curriculum issues to the Recommendations Section
[recorded in
[47]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minu
tes.html#action13] [CONTINUED]
[47]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minutes.html
#action13
TomB: His longer comments should go to the list.
... even if we cannot include everything in the report.
LIBRARY LINKED DATA: VOCABULARIES AND DATASETS - SEPARATE DELIVERABLE
(Antoine, Jeff, Marcia, William)
Emma: Still looking for reviewers.
<digikim_> I sent a review on the whole document, was this noticed?
(should we list somewhere all review emails to keep track?)
USE CASES (Daniel) - SEPARATE DELIVERABLE
dvilasuero: I asked cluster owners and contacted Gordon. I will send
email to list per Tuesday.
TRANSITION TO W3C COMMUNITY GROUP
Antoine: Another comment on reviews. Do we keep track of reviews in
a formal manner?
<digikim_> antoine: +1
Antoine: Should we centralize the comments, keep a list?
... W3C usually uses an issue tracker.
<dvilasuero> antoine +1
Antoine: All emails are tracked and a workflow is kept track of.
<Zakim> tbaker, you wanted to suggest that someone be responsible,
for each section, for thanking reviewers and acknowledging reviews
TomB: I suggest that when people send reviews, they should be
acknowledged with a personal response.
<tbaker> +1 wiki page is good enough for tracking issues
<emma>
[48]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/DraftReportReviewerAss
ignments
[48]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/DraftReportReviewerAssignments
Emma: Can we continue to track the reviews on this page?
Antoine: This aslo gives some candidate names of people who should
response to reviews.
... of specific parts
Emma: We discuss next week how to handle reviews.
Emma: Thanks, meeting adjourned.
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Karen to edit the Benefits section [recorded in
[49]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/26-lld-minu
tes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: Monica to set up blog for comments on Monday [recorded
in [50]http://www.w3.org/2011/06/16-lld-minutes.html#action05]
[49]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/26-lld-minutes.html
#action06
[50] http://www.w3.org/2011/06/16-lld-minutes.html#action05
[PENDING] ACTION: Gordon to review Relevant Technologies [recorded
in
[51]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/09-lld-minu
tes.html#action04]
[PENDING] ACTION: Tom to ask Dickson and Guenther if they could
contribute curriculum issues to the Recommendations Section
[recorded in
[52]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minu
tes.html#action13]
[51]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/09-lld-minutes.html
#action04
[52]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minutes.html
#action13
[DONE] ACTION: Karen and Antoine to relate Library Data Resources
and Library Standards and Linked data [recorded in
[53]http://www.w3.org/2011/06/16-lld-minutes.html#action12]
[DONE] ACTION: Antoine and Emmanuelle to talk about strategies for
getting comments at next call [recorded in
[54]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minu
tes.html#action15]
[DONE] ACTION: Co-chairs to draft message to the community about
review between 16 June and 20 July - post before next call, on 16
June [recorded in
[55]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/09-lld-minu
tes.html#action02]
[DONE] ACTION: everyone to read
[56]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Benefits#.22Library_Li
nked_Data.22:_Scope_of_this_report and do lightweight review
[recorded in
[57]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minu
tes.html#action04]
[DONE] ACTION: Gordon and Karen to consider relation between
problems and limitation section and the library resource wiki page.
[recorded in
[58]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/03/24-lld-minu
tes.html#action01]
[DONE] ACTION: Jeff and William to propose text on microdata and
schema.org - where in the report it should be discussed [recorded in
[59]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/09-lld-minu
tes.html#action03]
[DONE] ACTION: Jeff to review
[60]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Draft_recommendations_
page for next week [recorded in
[61]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minu
tes.html#action12]
[DONE] ACTION: Jodi to send email about Scope statement [recorded in
[62]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minu
tes.html#action05]
[DONE] ACTION: Tom to ask Hideaki or Dickson to review
[63]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Benefits recorded in
[64]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minu
tes.html#action06]
[DONE] ACTION: Tom to send email to the LOD-LAM participants and
create a final version of the presentation [recorded in
[65]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/26-lld-minu
tes.html#action01]
[53] http://www.w3.org/2011/06/16-lld-minutes.html#action12
[54]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minutes.html
#action15
[55]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/09-lld-minutes.html
#action02
[56]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Benefits#.22Library_Linked_Dat
a.22:_Scope_of_this_report
[57]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minutes.html
#action04
[58]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/03/24-lld-minutes.html
#action01
[59]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/09-lld-minutes.html
#action03
[60]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Draft_recommendations_page
[61]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minutes.html
#action12
[62]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minutes.html
#action05
[63] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Benefits
[64]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minutes.html
#action06
[65]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/26-lld-minutes.html
#action01
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