- From: Panzer,Michael <panzerm@oclc.org>
- Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:02:44 -0400
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Hi everyone, The minutes of our last telecon are at http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/16-lld-minutes.html . A text version follows. Cheers, Michael ----- [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ LLD XG 16 Jun 2011 [2]Agenda [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011Jun/0025.html See also: [3]IRC log [3] http://www.w3.org/2011/06/16-lld-irc Attendees Present dvilasuero, emma, AlexanderH, michaelp, tbaker, antoine, rsinger, rayd, jneubert, kefo, GordonD, edsu, monica, LarsG, pmurray, digikim Regrets William, Marcia, Lars, Jeff Chair Emmanuelle Scribe Michael Contents * [4]Topics 1. [5]Admin 2. [6]Final report -- reviews 3. [7]"LIBRARY LINKED DATA": SCOPE OF THIS REPORT (Karen, Peter, Tom, Gordon, Jodi) 4. [8]BENEFITS OF LINKED DATA (Ed, Emmanuelle, Ross) 5. [9]RELEVANT TECHNOLOGIES (Jeff) 6. [10]IMPLEMENTATION CHALLENGES AND BARRIERS TO ADOPTION (Karen, Peter, Tom, Gordon, Jodi) 7. [11]RECOMMENDATIONS AND NEXT STEPS (Karen, Peter, Tom, Gordon, Jodi) 8. [12]LIBRARY LINKED DATA: VOCABULARIES AND DATASETS - SEPARATE DELIVERABLE (Antoine, Jeff, Marcia, William) 9. [13]USE CASES (Daniel) - SEPARATE DELIVERABLE 10. [14]TRANSITION TO W3C COMMUNITY GROUP * [15]Summary of Action Items _________________________________________________________ <tbaker> Previous: [16]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/09-lld-minu tes.html [16] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/09-lld-minutes.html <tbaker> emma, do you know who sent regrets? <kcoyle> [17]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/ScribeDuty [17] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/ScribeDuty <emma> Scribe: Michael <emma> scribenick: michaelp Admin <emma> [18]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/RunningAgenda [18] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/RunningAgenda Emma: Minutes of last telecon accepted. <digikim_> monica :) <scribe> ACTION: Tom to send email to the LOD-LAM participants and create a final version of the presentation [recorded in [19]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/26-lld-minu tes.html#action01] [DONE] [19] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/26-lld-minutes.html #action01 <tbaker> The LOD-LAM presentation is at [20]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/File:Lldxg-summary.ppt x [20] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/File:Lldxg-summary.pptx Final report -- reviews Emma: Open action on getting comments and reviews Emma: Karen suggested using blog for comments ... We need someone to setup a WordPress blog and copy parts of review <monica> why cam we not use digress.it site? <digikim_> kcoule +1 Karen: We have gotten no replies from the public list. Approaching single individuals more succesful. <antoine> the principle is ok, but I'm not sure we want to centralize it! Emma: Targetting contributers could be more efficient. <digikim_> kcoyle: yes, I just sent the email to the two people at the national library of finland and said that you need to comment on this, to resque the world ;) <Zakim> tbaker, you wanted to say that the chairs have approached alot of people Karen: We don't happen to get general comments TomB: We have sent out a lot of mails and had gotten a very good response rate from potential commenters. ... We asked to review particular sections. <emma> [21]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/DraftReportReviewerAss ignments [21] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/DraftReportReviewerAssignments Karen: I am concerned about responses specifically from the library community. <antoine> Aren't we going to send to [22]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Dissemination_Lists ? [22] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Dissemination_Lists <kcoyle> antoine, i don't think that sending to lists is going to get the attention of the people we need to reach Emma: We have people from inside the group. <emma> [23]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011Jun/0023.h tml [23] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011Jun/0023.html Emma: We have prepared a call for comments. ... Ok for sending this Call for Comments on the list? <antoine> karen: well, at least it will be a wider than the lld alone! And of course that should not prevent us from trying personal requests. It's just that I don't think we should/can centralize that Antoine: I like the idea of members contacting outside people personally. ... I also wanted to point out that the call would also be send to a wider audience. Emma: Any objections to the draft of the Call? <dvilasuero> +1 to draft call <scribe> ACTION: Co-chairs to draft message to the community about review between 16 June and 20 July - post before next call, on 16 June [recorded in [24]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/09-lld-minu tes.html#action02] [DONE] [24] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/09-lld-minutes.html #action02 <Zakim> antoine, you wanted to comment on adding blog to the call Antoine: Do we want to add a blog reference/link to the Call? Emma: Karen, do you have a platform in mind? Monica: I think we could host it, but have to check if it will be open to anyone. Karen: We could use Blogspot, etc. ... But is this gonna work? I am wondering if this would trigger specific comments. Emma: W3C would probably not comfortable with a public plattform. Monica: How long do we expect the blog to be accessible? <antoine> 2 months? Emma: Duration of the review process, 2 month. <pmurray> I don't think we need to keep the comment blog around for a long time. <antoine> we can just save the comments as HTML and upload them on the wiki, if we want an archive... <pmurray> antoine: +1 Monica: We could set it up if it is not for a long period. <dvilasuero> antoine +1 <pmurray> I think it would be useful as a short term tool, not a long term preservation of commentary. <scribe> ACTION: Antoine and Emmanuelle to talk about strategies for getting comments at next call [recorded in [25]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minu tes.html#action15] [DONE] [25] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minutes.html #action15 Karen: We can split the blog up into sections that are moderated. Emma: We need the URL for the blog before the Call for Comments can go out. <scribe> ACTION: Monica to set up blog for comments on Monday [recorded in [26]http://www.w3.org/2011/06/16-lld-minutes.html#action05] [26] http://www.w3.org/2011/06/16-lld-minutes.html#action05 <scribe> ACTION: Jeff and William to propose text on microdata and schema.org - where in the report it should be discussed [recorded in [27]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/09-lld-minu tes.html#action03] [DONE] [27] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/09-lld-minutes.html #action03 <emma> [28]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011Jun/0026.h tml [28] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011Jun/0026.html Emma: We have to discuss how to integrate comments we are receiving ... Topic for next week. "LIBRARY LINKED DATA": SCOPE OF THIS REPORT (Karen, Peter, Tom, Gordon, Jodi) <scribe> ACTION: everyone to read [29]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Benefits#.22Library_Li nked_Data.22:_Scope_of_this_report and do lightweight review [recorded in [30]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minu tes.html#action04] [DONE] [29] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Benefits#.22Library_Linked_Dat a.22:_Scope_of_this_report [30] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minutes.html #action04 <tbaker> +1 close action <scribe> ACTION: Jodi to send email about Scope statement [recorded in [31]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minu tes.html#action05] [DONE] [31] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minutes.html #action05 BENEFITS OF LINKED DATA (Ed, Emmanuelle, Ross) <scribe> ACTION: Karen to edit the Benefits section [recorded in [32]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/26-lld-minu tes.html#action06] [DONE] [32] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/26-lld-minutes.html #action06 <emma> [33]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011May/0080.h tml [33] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011May/0080.html <tbaker> +1 - have asked <scribe> ACTION: Tom to ask Hideaki or Dickson to review [34]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Benefits recorded in [35]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minu tes.html#action06] [DONE] [34] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Benefits [35] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minutes.html #action06 RELEVANT TECHNOLOGIES (Jeff) <scribe> ACTION: Gordon to review Relevant Technologies [recorded in [36]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/09-lld-minu tes.html#action04] [CONTINUED] [36] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/09-lld-minutes.html #action04 <GordonD> OK to add Gordon to list of reviewers IMPLEMENTATION CHALLENGES AND BARRIERS TO ADOPTION (Karen, Peter, Tom, Gordon, Jodi) <antoine> in [37]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Library_standards_and_ linked_data there are things that relate to problems [37] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Library_standards_and_linked_d ata Karen: I don't really see a place for this in the report, because it doesn't really relate to problems and limitations. <antoine> E.g. Q: How can libraries be encouraged to "free" their records? <Zakim> tbaker, you wanted to ask if it might be folded into Available Vocabularies deliverable Karen: I looked at the available vocabularies, but it looked like it is not meant to be comprehensive. ... Should we add to it? ... A lot of what is in Library Standards is not about vocabs or data sets. <emma> [38]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Library_Data_Resources [38] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Library_Data_Resources TomB: I am just wondering of the scope of this vocab and dataset deliverable could be expanded to accomodate what is already in there ... It would be a pity not to publish some of the discussion there. <antoine> [39]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Library_Data_Resources [39] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Library_Data_Resources Antoine: Would this just apply to the page/link above? <emma> [40]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Library_standards_and_ linked_data [40] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Library_standards_and_linked_d ata Karen: We want to expand this other page to accomodate vocabs. <tbaker> I wasn't suggesting the pages be combined mechanically - not everything necessarily needs to be integrated into a formal deliverable Emma: Maybe we could just freeze the two pages and identify places where we could point to them. Antoine: Library Data Resources is about library standards. Could the vocab page point there? <monica> maybe we can make an even stronger statement "we highly recommend that you read link for background on topic xxx" Emma: Can we include some as issues for further discussion? <GordonD> Before freezing the Library Data Resources page, I will update it ... Karen: All the key issues here have gone into the issues section, just worded differently. <scribe> ACTION: Karen and Antoine to relate Library Data Resources and Library Standards and Linked data [recorded in [41]http://www.w3.org/2011/06/16-lld-minutes.html#action12] [41] http://www.w3.org/2011/06/16-lld-minutes.html#action12 <scribe> ACTION: Gordon and Karen to consider relation between problems and limitation section and the library resource wiki page. [recorded in [42]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/03/24-lld-minu tes.html#action01] [DONE] [42] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/03/24-lld-minutes.html #action01 RECOMMENDATIONS AND NEXT STEPS (Karen, Peter, Tom, Gordon, Jodi) <emma> [43]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-lld/2011May/0052.html [43] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-lld/2011May/0052.html <scribe> ACTION: Jeff to review [44]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Draft_recommendations_ page for next week [recorded in [45]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minu tes.html#action12] [DONE] [44] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Draft_recommendations_page [45] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minutes.html #action12 <monica> Draft Report blog - [46]http://blogs.ukoln.ac.uk/w3clld/ :) [46] http://blogs.ukoln.ac.uk/w3clld/ <monica> I will make some cosmetic changes on Monday and start call for emails of editors <antoine> monica++ <kcoyle> monica++! <dvilasuero> monica +1 <scribe> ACTION: Tom to ask Dickson and Guenther if they could contribute curriculum issues to the Recommendations Section [recorded in [47]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minu tes.html#action13] [CONTINUED] [47] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minutes.html #action13 TomB: His longer comments should go to the list. ... even if we cannot include everything in the report. LIBRARY LINKED DATA: VOCABULARIES AND DATASETS - SEPARATE DELIVERABLE (Antoine, Jeff, Marcia, William) Emma: Still looking for reviewers. <digikim_> I sent a review on the whole document, was this noticed? (should we list somewhere all review emails to keep track?) USE CASES (Daniel) - SEPARATE DELIVERABLE dvilasuero: I asked cluster owners and contacted Gordon. I will send email to list per Tuesday. TRANSITION TO W3C COMMUNITY GROUP Antoine: Another comment on reviews. Do we keep track of reviews in a formal manner? <digikim_> antoine: +1 Antoine: Should we centralize the comments, keep a list? ... W3C usually uses an issue tracker. <dvilasuero> antoine +1 Antoine: All emails are tracked and a workflow is kept track of. <Zakim> tbaker, you wanted to suggest that someone be responsible, for each section, for thanking reviewers and acknowledging reviews TomB: I suggest that when people send reviews, they should be acknowledged with a personal response. <tbaker> +1 wiki page is good enough for tracking issues <emma> [48]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/DraftReportReviewerAss ignments [48] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/DraftReportReviewerAssignments Emma: Can we continue to track the reviews on this page? Antoine: This aslo gives some candidate names of people who should response to reviews. ... of specific parts Emma: We discuss next week how to handle reviews. Emma: Thanks, meeting adjourned. Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: Karen to edit the Benefits section [recorded in [49]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/26-lld-minu tes.html#action06] [NEW] ACTION: Monica to set up blog for comments on Monday [recorded in [50]http://www.w3.org/2011/06/16-lld-minutes.html#action05] [49] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/26-lld-minutes.html #action06 [50] http://www.w3.org/2011/06/16-lld-minutes.html#action05 [PENDING] ACTION: Gordon to review Relevant Technologies [recorded in [51]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/09-lld-minu tes.html#action04] [PENDING] ACTION: Tom to ask Dickson and Guenther if they could contribute curriculum issues to the Recommendations Section [recorded in [52]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minu tes.html#action13] [51] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/09-lld-minutes.html #action04 [52] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minutes.html #action13 [DONE] ACTION: Karen and Antoine to relate Library Data Resources and Library Standards and Linked data [recorded in [53]http://www.w3.org/2011/06/16-lld-minutes.html#action12] [DONE] ACTION: Antoine and Emmanuelle to talk about strategies for getting comments at next call [recorded in [54]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minu tes.html#action15] [DONE] ACTION: Co-chairs to draft message to the community about review between 16 June and 20 July - post before next call, on 16 June [recorded in [55]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/09-lld-minu tes.html#action02] [DONE] ACTION: everyone to read [56]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Benefits#.22Library_Li nked_Data.22:_Scope_of_this_report and do lightweight review [recorded in [57]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minu tes.html#action04] [DONE] ACTION: Gordon and Karen to consider relation between problems and limitation section and the library resource wiki page. [recorded in [58]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/03/24-lld-minu tes.html#action01] [DONE] ACTION: Jeff and William to propose text on microdata and schema.org - where in the report it should be discussed [recorded in [59]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/09-lld-minu tes.html#action03] [DONE] ACTION: Jeff to review [60]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Draft_recommendations_ page for next week [recorded in [61]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minu tes.html#action12] [DONE] ACTION: Jodi to send email about Scope statement [recorded in [62]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minu tes.html#action05] [DONE] ACTION: Tom to ask Hideaki or Dickson to review [63]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Benefits recorded in [64]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minu tes.html#action06] [DONE] ACTION: Tom to send email to the LOD-LAM participants and create a final version of the presentation [recorded in [65]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/26-lld-minu tes.html#action01] [53] http://www.w3.org/2011/06/16-lld-minutes.html#action12 [54] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minutes.html #action15 [55] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/09-lld-minutes.html #action02 [56] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Benefits#.22Library_Linked_Dat a.22:_Scope_of_this_report [57] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minutes.html #action04 [58] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/03/24-lld-minutes.html #action01 [59] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/09-lld-minutes.html #action03 [60] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Draft_recommendations_page [61] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minutes.html #action12 [62] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minutes.html #action05 [63] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Benefits [64] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minutes.html #action06 [65] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/26-lld-minutes.html #action01 [End of minutes] _________________________________________________________ Minutes formatted by David Booth's [66]scribe.perl version 1.136 ([67]CVS log) $Date: 2011/06/22 19:50:21 $ [66] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm [67] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/
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