- From: Emmanuelle Bermes <manue@figoblog.org>
- Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 08:08:19 +0200
- To: Jodi Schneider <jodi.schneider@deri.org>
- Cc: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>, public-xg-lld@w3.org
Hi Jodi, I like you idea of merging Vocs & data with Current situation. As I advocated yesterday on the call, for me the fact that there are already data and vocabularies out there is a major fact to be emphasized in the current situation. Emma On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Jodi Schneider <jodi.schneider@deri.org> wrote: > I like this part: > > Metadata element sets like Dublin Core, the RDA elements, SKOS or FOAF; > Value vocabularies such as LCSH, AGROVOC, VIAF, DDC and GeoNames; > specific Datasets, e.g., the British National Bibliography, the catalogue of > the Hungarian national library, the Open Library, CrossRef, Europeana. > @@TODO: lists can be adapted of course@@ > > It's definitely going in the right direction, Antoine!! > I now agree that vocabularies need to be discussed in the main report! Sorry > I was confused about this earlier today. After taking a closer look, I see > that the vocabularies section has gotten a lot shorter (even before your > edits) since the last time I looked, and a lot more general. > When I look at your "some observations", they look a lot like they describe > the "current situation". So I would envision folding the vocabulary > observations into that section (which was called 'issues' not so long ago). > Then the report structure would look something like this: > ==General Report== > Executive summary > Introduction/Overview/Methodology > Benefits of Linked Data > Current Situation > Recommendations > ==Technical Report== > .... > ==Appendix== > List of related documents > For the separate deliverables--the inventory and use case report--I would > see mentioning them in the executive summary, and > introduction/overview/methodology section. We might also want to point to > them in an appendix. > Could you conceive of those "some observations" as part of the current > situation? They would have descriptive headings, maybe something like this: > > While classification systems are being converted, there is relatively low > availability of bibliographic datasets > Quality and support for available sources varies greatly > Linking across various datasets, within and outside of the library domain, > has begun, but needs further attention > > -Jodi > > On 4 Aug 2011, at 22:28, Antoine Isaac wrote: > > Dear all, > > In today's discussion, I've suggested that we could try to make the section > on Available Data shorter *and* keep it in the (one) main report. The idea > was to remove our lengthy explanations of what our categories are. These > would be only in the separate longer report on Available Data. > > My first attempt is at > http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Draft_Vocabularies_Datasets_Section2 > > You can compare withthe current version > http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Draft_Vocabularies_Datasets_Section > > Is this going in the right direction? Or even, good enough? > > Cheers, > > Antoine > > > Is has been (and continues to be) very helpful to use the Reviewer > Assignment > > page to collect references to comments received [1]. I felt that in > addition > > it would be helpful to see these references side-by-side with comments > received > > in the blog, so I created a parallel page, DraftReportReviews, by > > cutting-and-pasting from the blog [2]. If we were still receiving alot of > > comments, I would propose that we use one or the other (but not both). But > > with the current volume of comments it will be easy to occasionally update > [2] > > from [1] using wiki diffs. > > On a Skype call today, the "Issues and Recommendations" sub-group discussed > > revisions to its sections in light of comments received. Since a number of > the > > comments proposed substantial changes to the tone, level of detail, and > > organization of these sections, Karen has forked both pages [3,4] -- these > > revised pages will be on tomorrow's agenda. > > The group also discussed a proposal for restructuring the final deliverables > as > > a whole. We noted that while praising the quality and usefulness of the > more > > technical sections of the report -- Available Vocabularies and Datasets [5] > and > > Relevant Technologies [6] -- several reviewers felt that the technical > detail > > and jargon was too heavy for a report which aims at convincing non-technical > > decision makers. > > We propose that the report in its current state [3] be split into two > separate > > deliverables aimed at two significantly different audiences: > > -- Deliverable 1 (title something like "Benefits of Library Linked Data, > with > > Recommendations") for an audience of decision-makers: > > Executive summary > > -- http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/ExecutiveSummary > > Scope > > -- > http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Benefits#.22Library_Linked_Data.22:_Scope_of_this_report > > Methodology > > -- A 2- or 3-paragraph section, yet to be written, which points to and > summarizes > > the other two deliverables -- "Technologies, Vocabularies, Datasets" > and "Use Cases" > > (see below). > > Benefits > > -- http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Benefits > > Current Situation (was: "Implementation Challenges and Barriers to > Adoption") > > -- http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Draft_issues_page_take2 > > Recommendations > > -- > http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Draft_recommendations_page_take2 > > -- Deliverable 2 (title something like "Available Technologies, > Vocabularies, and > > Datasets for Library Linked Data") for a more technical audience: > > Available Vocabularies and Datasets - an overview > > -- > http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Draft_Vocabularies_Datasets_Section > > Snapshot of available vocabularies and datasets - in detail > > -- http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Vocabulary_and_Dataset > > Relevant Technologies > > -- http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Draft_Relevant_Technologies > > -- Deliverable 3 "Use Cases for Library Linked Data" > > http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/UseCaseReport > > It looks to me like the first deliverable would end up being about eight > pages > > long -- a nice length, in my opinion, for something which we would like to > > see widely distributed and read. The second and third deliverables could be > of > > arbitrary length. > > We feel that separating technical presentation from strategic benefits and > > recommendations would solve a number of problems identified by the > reviewers. > > Combining the two documents on vocabularies and datasets -- the longer list > > and shorter summary prepared for the main report -- might actually make it > > easier for its authors to finalize that deliverable as there would be no > > particular need to rewrite sections with the requirement that all technical > > topics be described in terms that the technically less-expert readers > > of the Recommendations report would understand. > > Finally, we felt that it would be desirable to describe, in the > Recommendations > > report, the methodology followed by the XG -- collection of use cases, > > collection of pointers to technologies and vocabularies, etc -- and, > ideally, > > to summarize the nature of the use cases collected in a few bullet points. > > For discussion tomorrow... > > Tom (and Jodi, Karen, Gordon, and Peter) > > [1] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/DraftReportReviewerAssignments > > [2] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/DraftReportReviews > > [3] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Draft_issues_page_take2 > > [4] > http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Draft_recommendations_page_take2 > > [5] > http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Draft_Vocabularies_Datasets_Section > > [6] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Draft_Relevant_Technologies > > [7] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/DraftReportWithTransclusion > > > > > >
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