Re: [georss] Geospatial Incubator Group

Mike,

What do you feel are the issues, then, in getting to adoption of  
point geotags or other objects? I ask because the premise of GeoRSS  
has in one way been that the geo:Point object was successful as far  
as it went but not sufficiently expressive to satisfy wider needs for  
geographic encoding.

-Josh


On Jul 19, 2006, at 2:37 PM, Mike Liebhold wrote:

> While I am thrilled to hear of any significant efforts in building  
> useful spatial semantics, and extended interoperable ontologies I  
> am hoping we can simply focus on setting a basic standard for  
> coding location coordinates for waypoints, point annotations and  
> geocoded web objects.
>
> In my humble opinion a simple exchange of point objects is THE  
> foundation of a geospatial web. After that we're in for years of  
> debate and discussion about more complex metastructures including  
> various semantic, rendering and logical descriptions.
>
> So far so good. let's just keep it simple, for now. Personally I  
> can't wait for the real  dialogue to begin on harmonizing OWL/RDF  
> with GML, KML, SVG, and 18 other higher level knowledge structures.  
> But in the meantime will be absolutely delighted if we can effect  
> universal adoption of the simplest, easiest to implement point  
> geocodes.
>
> -Mike
>
>
>
> Josh@oklieb wrote:
>>
>> This is a good discussion which I would like to include in the  
>> geoxg  list as well. There is usually some tension between  
>> starting small  and creating a comprehensive foundation. In this  
>> case I envision that  there are plenty of tools on both the SemWeb  
>> and GeoWeb sides. The  small steps (e.g. GeoRSS) are working out  
>> how they can effectively be  combined. An OWL realization of the  
>> GML / 19107 feature model is  sitting out there as a somewhat  
>> straightforward goal, but we (at  least I) do not understand yet  
>> how best to enhance both sides with  this development.
>>
>> Josh
>>
>> On Jul 19, 2006, at 1:47 PM, Ron Lake wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I agree, provided you have already thought out HOW to extend  
>>> beyond  the
>>> simple stuff - since that extension will happen rather quickly.
>>>
>>> R
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Gregor J. Rothfuss [mailto:gregor@apache.org]
>>> Sent: July 19, 2006 10:07 AM
>>> To: Ron Lake
>>> Cc: Carl Reed OGC Account; Mike Liebhold; noiv;  
>>> georss@lists.eogeo.org
>>> Subject: Re: [georss] Geospatial Incubator Group
>>>
>>> Ron Lake wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> If we want to build a solid foundation for geospatial extensions to
>>> the
>>>> semantic web - or flipped the other way to add more semantics  
>>>> into  the
>>>> GeoWeb - how is geoRSS a foundation.  It strikes me as too limiting
>>>> unless you have a very restricted notion of what the Geo- 
>>>> Semantic Web
>>>> means.  I would more favour directions like an OWL encoding of  
>>>> GML or
>>>> OWL decoration of GML.
>>>
>>> too limiting for whom? it boils down to whether you want to  
>>> cater  to GIS
>>>
>>> professionals, or a couple orders of magnitude more people. starting
>>> with something simple that fits on 2 pages of spec strikes me as a
>>> superior idea if you want uptake. you can always come back and  
>>> extend
>>> once people actually use the simple stuff.
>>>
>>> -gregor
>>>
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