Re: MarkupUK XForms

Dear Steven & public-xformsusers,

I finded words on declarative languages and the Turing Complete in
"Principle of Least Power", a section of the "Principles of Design" (1998;
last changed 2013) explaining about picking the least powerful languages...:


https://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Principles.html

Regard,
Guntur Wiseno Putra

Pada Sabtu, 07 Desember 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>
menulis:

> Dear Steven and public-xformsusers,
>
> At least until your talk on MarkupUK it is said about xformsusers as a
> Turing-complete model:
>
> https://homepages.cwi.nl/~steven/Talks/2019/06-07-markup/
>
> Opening pages on XML and I finded one titled "Evolvability" written by T.
> Berner-Lee (2009):  In attempting interoperability and
> evolution/evolvability as two main goals of all W3C technologies, there was
> discussed an option of schema documents, which was shema option 5:
> Turing-complete language recipe for conversion into other languages:
> There were said about a balance between declarative language whose
> formulae easily manipulated and powerful programming languages whose
> programmes have to be left to see what they do, filters, and language
> conversion from XML...
>
> https://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Evolution.html
>
> If there are such differences, such histories, of the understanding on
> Turibg -complete model in relation with XForms...? --knowledges may be
> helpful to learn on the programming language...?
>
> Regard,
> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>
>
>
>
> Pada Sabtu, 25 Mei 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com> menulis:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> The Spectrum-IEEE's article on Alan Turing sugested a link to "Computing
>> Machinery and Intellegence"
>>
>> https://www.csee.umbc.edu/courses/471/papers/turing.pdf
>>
>> There are also other papers on Turing (Test) worked on at least by Saygin
>> A.P et all., Hutchens J.L. (either alone or et all), Hayes, P et all...
>>
>>
>> https://www.csee.umbc.edu/courses/471/papers/
>>
>>
>> (Those resources above are maintained by the University of Maryland
>> Baltimore County Department of Computer Science and Electrical Engineering.)
>>
>>
>> Regard,
>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>
>> Pada Jumat, 24 Mei 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com> menulis:
>>
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>>
>>> It comes from 2018 "MarkupUK"'s proceeding "XForms 2.0 Test Suite"
>>> saying about the birth of XForms 1.1 as a declarative, Turing-complete
>>> programming language.
>>>
>>> https://markupuk.org/webhelp/index_frames.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Recently there was a history on Alan Turing
>>> "Untold History of AI: Why Alan Turing Wanted AI Agents to Make
>>> Mistakes" (Schwartz, O., Spectrum- IEEE, April1st 2019)
>>>
>>>
>>> https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/tech-history/dawn-of-ele
>>> ctronics/untold-history-of-ai-why-alan-turing-wanted-ai-to-make-mistakes
>>>
>>>
>>> Regard,
>>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>>
>>>
>>> Pada Selasa, 21 Mei 2019, Steven Pemberton <steven.pemberton@cwi.nl>
>>> menulis:
>>>
>>>> Also worth pointing out that there are two XForms sessions at MarkupUK
>>>> as well:
>>>>
>>>>   Declarative Applications with XForms
>>>>   Steven Pemberton
>>>>
>>>>   XQuery for Data Workers
>>>>   Alain Couthures
>>>>
>>>> Steven
>>>>
>>>>