Re: MarkupUK XForms

Dear Steven & public-xformsusers,

I finded words on declarative languages and the Turing Complete in
"Principle of Least Power", a section of the "Principles of Design" by Tim
Berner-Lee (1998; last changed 2013) explaining about picking the least
powerful languages...:


https://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Principles.html

Regard,
Guntur Wiseno Putra


Pada Minggu, 08 Desember 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>
menulis:

> Dear Steven & public-xformsusers,
>
> I finded words on declarative languages and the Turing Complete in
> "Principle of Least Power", a section of the "Principles of Design" (1998;
> last changed 2013) explaining about picking the least powerful languages...:
>
>
> https://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Principles.html
>
> Regard,
> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>
> Pada Sabtu, 07 Desember 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>
> menulis:
>
>> Dear Steven and public-xformsusers,
>>
>> At least until your talk on MarkupUK it is said about xformsusers as a
>> Turing-complete model:
>>
>> https://homepages.cwi.nl/~steven/Talks/2019/06-07-markup/
>>
>> Opening pages on XML and I finded one titled "Evolvability" written by T.
>> Berner-Lee (2009):  In attempting interoperability and
>> evolution/evolvability as two main goals of all W3C technologies, there was
>> discussed an option of schema documents, which was shema option 5:
>> Turing-complete language recipe for conversion into other languages:
>> There were said about a balance between declarative language whose
>> formulae easily manipulated and powerful programming languages whose
>> programmes have to be left to see what they do, filters, and language
>> conversion from XML...
>>
>> https://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Evolution.html
>>
>> If there are such differences, such histories, of the understanding on
>> Turibg -complete model in relation with XForms...? --knowledges may be
>> helpful to learn on the programming language...?
>>
>> Regard,
>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Pada Sabtu, 25 Mei 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com> menulis:
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> The Spectrum-IEEE's article on Alan Turing sugested a link to "Computing
>>> Machinery and Intellegence"
>>>
>>> https://www.csee.umbc.edu/courses/471/papers/turing.pdf
>>>
>>> There are also other papers on Turing (Test) worked on at least by
>>> Saygin A.P et all., Hutchens J.L. (either alone or et all), Hayes, P et
>>> all...
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.csee.umbc.edu/courses/471/papers/
>>>
>>>
>>> (Those resources above are maintained by the University of Maryland
>>> Baltimore County Department of Computer Science and Electrical Engineering.)
>>>
>>>
>>> Regard,
>>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>>
>>> Pada Jumat, 24 Mei 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>
>>> menulis:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It comes from 2018 "MarkupUK"'s proceeding "XForms 2.0 Test Suite"
>>>> saying about the birth of XForms 1.1 as a declarative, Turing-complete
>>>> programming language.
>>>>
>>>> https://markupuk.org/webhelp/index_frames.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Recently there was a history on Alan Turing
>>>> "Untold History of AI: Why Alan Turing Wanted AI Agents to Make
>>>> Mistakes" (Schwartz, O., Spectrum- IEEE, April1st 2019)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/tech-history/dawn-of-ele
>>>> ctronics/untold-history-of-ai-why-alan-turing-wanted-ai-to-m
>>>> ake-mistakes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regard,
>>>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Pada Selasa, 21 Mei 2019, Steven Pemberton <steven.pemberton@cwi.nl>
>>>> menulis:
>>>>
>>>>> Also worth pointing out that there are two XForms sessions at MarkupUK
>>>>> as well:
>>>>>
>>>>>   Declarative Applications with XForms
>>>>>   Steven Pemberton
>>>>>
>>>>>   XQuery for Data Workers
>>>>>   Alain Couthures
>>>>>
>>>>> Steven
>>>>>
>>>>>