RE: Suggested Wording to Resolve Issues 6719 and 6720

It is not the usual case but possible.

Just like the HTTP Get response, the Transfer Get response is at most subject to the "best efforts" of the hosting server.

From: Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 1:14 PM
To: Asir Vedamuthu
Cc: public-ws-resource-access@w3.org
Subject: RE: Suggested Wording to Resolve Issues 6719 and 6720


Are you suggesting that an EPR in a mex:MetadataSection@Dialect=WSDL section can return xsd instead of WSDL in response to a t.Get()?

thanks
-Doug
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It should be noted that the state maintenance of a metadata resource is at most subject to the "best efforts" of the hosting server. The hosting server may change the representation of a resource, may remove a resource entirely, or may bring back a resource that was deleted. And, a metadata resource state may evolve over time.

So, there aren't any grounds to impose any state maintenance related MUST requirements on a metadata resource.

Regards,

Asir S Vedamuthu
Microsoft Corporation

From: Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com]
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Subject: RE: Suggested Wording to Resolve Issues 6719 and 6720


For any _one_ metadata resource it always returns the same QName (Dialect). In other words, a metadata resource that returns WSDL today will not return Policy tomorrow.  There is no optionality about it.   The text is:
  As a result, the metadata returned by the Get request to a metadata resource's endpoint may be limited to a particular metadata type (@Dialect) and identifier (@Identifier).
When would the metadata from a T.Get() _not_ be limited to a particular dialect?  If its WSDL today and WSDL tomorrow, when would it ever return metadata from a different dialect?

thanks
-Doug
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07/24/2009 02:00 PM


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+1 to Ashok. This is an attempt to clarify.

Read your comment on MAY. We simply do not understand why the MAY should be changed to MUST. The WS-MetadataExchange does not impose any such limitations on a metadata resource.

Regards,

Asir S Vedamuthu
Microsoft Corporation

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Doug, I would rather keep the second para as it makes the use of the MEX
dialect explicit.
Let's discuss on the call and see how others feel..  This is not a
showstopper!
All the best, Ashok


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