- From: Yalcinalp, Umit <umit.yalcinalp@sap.com>
- Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 13:33:17 -0800
- To: "Fabian Ritzmann" <Fabian.Ritzmann@Sun.COM>, <public-ws-policy@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <2BA6015847F82645A9BB31C7F9D6416503241056@uspale20.pal.sap.corp>
Fabian, This is a very important issue. Thanks for filing this. It also confirms that we have more work and explanation to do about the impact of nesting, parameters and compatibility. --umit ________________________________ From: public-ws-policy-request@w3.org [mailto:public-ws-policy-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Fabian Ritzmann Sent: Friday, Jan 12, 2007 10:22 AM To: public-ws-policy@w3.org Subject: NEW ISSUE 4206: Clarify treatment of policy assertion parameters in compatibility determination http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4206 Title Clarify treatment of policy assertion parameters in compatibility determination Description The treatment of assertion parameters in intersection is ill understood by policy implementers and policy domains alike. The framework has this text in section 4.5: "If a domain-specific intersection processing algorithm is required this will be known from the QNames of the specific assertion types involved in the policy alternatives... Assertion parameters are not part of the compatibility determination defined herein but may be part of other, domain-specific compatibility processing." Our understanding is that this means that the default algorithm will ignore all assertion parameters when computing compatibility unless otherwise specified by a domain. For example an assertion <Assertion1 parameter1="value1"/> would be compatible with <Assertion1 parameter1="value2"/>. The framework leaves it open if the resulting intersection set contains <Assertion1 parameter1="value1"/> or <Assertion1 parameter1="value2"/> or <Assertion1/>. Looking at the existing public policy domains, WS-SecurityPolicy 1.2 says in the introduction to chapter 2 that it is avoiding the usage of assertion parameters to allow the default framework intersection algorithm be used. WS-SecurityPolicy fails to specify how to compute compatibility in those cases where it could not avoid the usage of assertion parameters. Here are simple (incomplete) examples of a parameterized security policy assertion: <Policy id="p1"> <sp:IssuedToken sp:IncludeToken="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/ws/2005/07/securitypolicy/In cludeToken/Once" <http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/ws/2005/07/securitypolicy/IncludeToken/Once> /> </Policy> <Policy id="p2"> <sp:IssuedToken sp:IncludeToken="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/ws/2005/07/securitypolicy/In cludeToken/AlwaysToRecipient" <http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/ws/2005/07/securitypolicy/IncludeToken/Alway sToRecipient> /> </Policy> Both policies yield different behavior on the wire. But since WS-SecurityPolicy does not define any exceptions they would be considered compatible. It is also left open whether the intersection result would be: <Policy id="i1"> <sp:IssuedToken sp:IncludeToken="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/ws/2005/07/securitypolicy/In cludeToken/Once" <http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/ws/2005/07/securitypolicy/IncludeToken/Once> /> </Policy> or <Policy id="i2"> <sp:IssuedToken sp:IncludeToken="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/ws/2005/07/securitypolicy/In cludeToken/AlwaysToRecipient" <http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/ws/2005/07/securitypolicy/IncludeToken/Alway sToRecipient> /> </Policy> or <Policy id="i3"> <sp:IssuedToken/> </Policy> Note that policy i3 is equivalent to: <Policy id="p3"> <sp:IssuedToken sp:IncludeToken="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/ws/2005/07/securitypolicy/In cludeToken/Always" <http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/ws/2005/07/securitypolicy/IncludeToken/Alway s> /> </Policy> That means policies i1, i2, i3 would all manifest differently on the wire. At this point this is an issue with WS-SecurityPolicy, although it is probable that the language in the framework currently is sufficiently unclear to cause similar issues with other domains or those that use complex policies now or in the future. In order to achieve interoperable results, we could take the following actions: 1. Consider assertion parameters in intersection by default. Two policy assertions with different parameters[1] <http://wikihome.sfbay.sun.com/wts/Wiki.jsp?page=PolicySpecIssueMultiple Alternatives#ref-PolicySpecIssueMultipleAlternatives-1> are not compatible. 2. Alternatively to 1), two assertions whose QNames match shall not match if either of the assertions contains parameters. Domains may define more specific match algorithms that can take parameters into account, and in this case, then the policy engine may use results from such a processor to determine whether two assertions that have the same QName, but that also have parameters, actually match. Policy engines that are not aware of, or are not able to process domain-specific parameter-matching semantics shall use the default.[2] <http://wikihome.sfbay.sun.com/wts/Wiki.jsp?page=PolicySpecIssueMultiple Alternatives#ref-PolicySpecIssueMultipleAlternatives-2> 3. Alternatively to 1), require domains to specify how to treat their assertion parameters. 4. Provide additional guidance in the guidelines and primer. Ultimately, the choice between the above action depends on whether it is worse to choose a policy alternative where some assertions actually don't match, or to reject a policy alternative that may actually match. This is an inherent challenge with not having a domain-independent policy assertion language. Justification See description Target Framework section 4.5, Guidelines and Primer Proposal This proposal addresses the first option, considering parameters in intersection by default. The other actions would have likely yielded more changes or introduced incompatibilities for existing domains. In the framework, change from: * Two policy assertions are compatible if they have the same type and * If either assertion contains a nested policy expression, the two assertions are compatible if they both have a nested policy expression and the alternative in the nested policy expression of one is compatible with the alternative in the nested policy expression of the other. Assertion parameters are not part of the compatibility determination defined herein but may be part of other, domain-specific compatibility processing. change to: * Two policy assertions are compatible if they have the same type and * If either assertion contains parameters and the domain has not specified how to compute their compatibility, the two assertions are compatible if they both have the same parameters[1] <http://wikihome.sfbay.sun.com/wts/Wiki.jsp?page=PolicySpecIssueMultiple Alternatives#ref-PolicySpecIssueMultipleAlternatives-1> and * If either assertion contains a nested policy expression, the two assertions are compatible if they both have a nested policy expression and the alternative in the nested policy expression of one is compatible with the alternative in the nested policy expression of the other. In the primer, insert this text before the last paragraph in section 3.4: Policy domains may require that assertion parameters be considered in order to establish compatibility. The assertion (a1) has a parameter (p1). This assertion is only compatible with another assertion if the QNames of the assertions match as well as the QNames and values of the parameters of both assertions. The assertion (a1) would also be compatible with another assertion sp:IssuedToken that has no parameter (p1) because parameter (p1) is the default for this assertion. If another assertion sp:IssuedToken had a different parameter than (p1) it would not be compatible with (a1). Example 3-8. A Policy Expression in Normal Form With a Parameterized Policy Assertion <Policy> <ExactlyOne> <All> <!-- - - - - - - - - - - - - - A Policy Alternative --> <!-- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Policy Assertion (a1) --> <sp:IssuedToken <!-- - - - - - - - - - - Parameter (p1) to Policy Assertion (p1) --> sp:IncludeToken="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/ws/2005/07/securitypolicy/In cludeToken/Always" <http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/ws/2005/07/securitypolicy/IncludeToken/Alway s> > | </sp:IssuedToken> </All> </ExactlyOne> </Policy> [#1] The term "same parameters" must still be defined precisely in a domain-independent way or definition must be deferred to domains. Where sequences of choices are permitted, for example, parameters may appear in different orders. The encoding of parameters may differ slightly. Some parameters may be neglectable. [#2] We believe this is the current state and has lead to inconsistencies in WS-SecurityPolicy and potentially other domains. If this option is chosen, it should be documented whether the intersection set contains the assertions with all parameters omitted. -- Fabian Ritzmann Sun Microsystems, Inc. Stella Business Park Phone +358-9-525 562 96 Lars Sonckin kaari 12 Fax +358-9-525 562 52 02600 Espoo Email Fabian.Ritzmann@Sun.COM Finland
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