- From: Paul Denning <pauld@mitre.org>
- Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 17:44:38 -0500
- To: "Snow, Skip [CCC-OT_IT]" <skip.snow@citigroup.com>, <public-ws-policy@w3.org>
I would be opposed to keeping the "c) Attaching Policies Using UDDI" at risk. To address the concern that "thus far, there aren't any publicly visible implementations," I would point out that most deployments of UDDI are private and not publicly available. Most UDDI implementations provide a browser-based interface to CRUD UDDI entries. Such an interface is sufficient to manually add the UDDI entries or tModels that reference policies in accordance with WS-PolicyAttachment. So, you may find entries in private UDDI registries that refer to policies in accordance with WS-PolicyAttachment. I have added the three category tModels defined in Appendix B to a UDDI server that is within MITRE, so these "taxonomies" are available to use. I can see there being an issue with "merging" into an "effective policy", but the ability to reference policies from UDDI in a standard way is of value. Paul At 05:37 PM 2007-02-07, Snow, Skip [CCC-OT_IT] wrote: >Members: > >In a separate set of threads I have brought to the attention of the >chairs at least two additional product implementations that are live >today with support for the feature under debate. I have introduced the >chairs to representatives from both firms witch have allowed me to do >so. > >While Citigroup is not and can not, be in the business of presenting >technology vendors to public forums like this, we are confident that the >chairs will follow up with these vendors. > >We trust that the public implantations of these features, which we have >brought to the chair's attention, and our own concern with these >important matters will help put this matter into its proper perspective. > >If not we are ready to help in any way resolve this issue. > >Thank you. > >Skip Snow > >-----Original Message----- >From: Snow, Skip [CCC-OT_IT] [mailto:skip.snow@citigroup.com] >Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 8:36 AM >To: Prasad Yendluri; Asir Vedamuthu; public-ws-policy@w3.org >Cc: Rajesh Koilpillai >Subject: RE: Features at Risk > >Prasad: > >Thank you for this notice. > >It is important to insure that policies and their attachments are >discoverable in a standards based way. > >It is not sufficient that various meta data resource transfer mechanisms >be available if an actor happens to know the bindings to the actors that >contain information about policies and their attachments are. > >It is required that a registry, using a standards based registry >protocol be available for this purpose. The charter stipulates that this >registry be UDDI. We are satisfied with the charter's stipulation. We >would be dismayed if this stipulation was not met. > >Skip Snow >Citigroup. > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Prasad Yendluri [mailto:prasad.yendluri@webmethods.com] >Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:29 AM >To: Asir Vedamuthu; public-ws-policy@w3.org >Cc: Rajesh Koilpillai; Snow, Skip [CCC-OT_IT] >Subject: RE: Features at Risk > >Hi, > > > c) Attaching Policies Using UDDI > >webMethods expects to have a UDDI server implementation that supports >attaching policy to UDDI entities as defined in the specification. >We would be opposed to marking this as a feature at risk. > >I have copied Skip Snow from Citigroup, that has shown an interest in >this space. > >Regards, >Prasad > >-----Original Message----- >From: public-ws-policy-request@w3.org >[mailto:public-ws-policy-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Asir Vedamuthu >Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 8:18 AM >To: public-ws-policy@w3.org >Subject: Features at Risk > > >To advance WS-Policy to Proposed Recommendation, the Working Group needs >to show that each feature in the Framework and Attachment drafts has >been implemented. Thus far, there aren't any publicly visible >implementations for the following features: > >a) Ignorable Policy Assertions >b) External Policy Attachment >c) Attaching Policies Using UDDI > >For a successful Candidate Recommendation phase, we request the WG to >consider marking features a)-c) as being at risk (the history is that >most of the features marked as being at risk were implemented by >multiple vendors). > >Also, in Nov, W3C requested the Working Group to consider marking >feature a) as being at risk [1]. > >[1] >http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0077.html > >Regards, > >Asir S Vedamuthu >Microsoft Corporation
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