Agenda: WS-Policy WG Teleconference 13 - 2006-10-18

Agenda: WS-Policy WG Teleconference 13 - 2006-10-18

The phone number to use for the WS-Policy WG F2F is documented on the WG's administrative home page:

Participants are invited to join IRC channel #ws-policy as documented on the WG's administrative home page. Please register with Zakim:

1. Roll call and selection of secretary, Chair

a) Scribe List:

Sanka Samaranayake (Secretary for Oct 18)
Dimitar Angelov
Sanjiva Weerawarana
Fabian Ritzmann
Ruchith Fernando
Jeffrey Crump
Tom Jordahl
Jong Lee
Vladislav Bezrukov
Asir Vedamuthu
Ümit Yalçinalp
Frederick Hirsch
Dale Moberg
David Orchard
Jeff Mischkinsky
William Henry
Prasad Yendluri
Mark Little
Abbie Barbir
Yakov Sverdlov
Anthony Nadalin
Monica Martin
Glen Daniels
Felix Sasaki
Maryann Hondo
Ashok Malhotra
Toufic Boubez
Daniel Roth
Sergey Beryozkin
Charlton Barreto

b) Scribe FAQ (Updated)
Member only:

c) Regrets
Asir Vedamuthu

2. Review and approval of last week's telcon minutes, Chair

a) Review and approval of 2006-10-11 minutes, Chair
Draft minutes (member only):

3. Future WG meetings, Chair

a) Next distributed meeting is Wed Oct 25 - Chris to chair

b) Future meetings

c) WS-Policy F2F, Sonic, Bedford, MA Nov 7-9
Note from Chairs: Please be sure to have proposals for your issues and your actions
complete by 3 Nov to that others have time to cherish and grok

4. Editorial team report

a) Terms should be defined/targeted in the appropriate sections of the spec, Editors
Status from Oct 04 DaveO instructed to pursue his Option 3

b) Editors to clarify the use of the term "domain", Editors
Action item:
Status from Oct 04: members to review draft

c) Review next editors draft to see if there are any security considerations from framework doc that apply to attachment doc, Editors
Status from Sep 26: Pending next Editor's Draft.

d) WS-Policy Guidelines for Policy Authors, MaryAnn
Status from Oct 11: ED to be available this week
ACTION: Prepare Editor's Draft of Guidelines document: (complete)

ACTION: Add adopted guidance to Guidelines document for Issue 3577:
Status from Oct 11: Pending next Editor's Draft. Maryann seeking
input from editors and chairs as to whether what is currently in the
GL resolves 3577

e) Approve Primer ED for publication as WD?
Status from Oct 11: status section approved, pending pub req, Felix

5. Review action items, Chair
Open action items:
Member only:

Action items not otherwise on this agenda:

a) ACTION 96 - Investigate usage of "policy alternative vocabulary", Glen D
Status from Oct 11: Glen to complete AI

6. Liaison items

a) New C14N/1.1 WD and Web Services Policy 1.5 - Framework (ed. copy)
Status: Action on Paul to review WD

7. Open Issues with pending actions

a) External WS-Policy Attachment to WSDL 2.0 components, Ashok
Status: WG to review Ashok's proposal
Ashok's proposal email:

b) Definition of Interaction
Status: WG to review proposal

c) add an issue on coordination with other working groups
Status: Glen to start internal thread on possible response:
[NOTE: no AI recorded, and the minutes are vage about what was to be done. I had thought we agreed
to make the proposed email more formal request for a joint TF]

d) Levels of indirection for policy references (RESOLVED)
Status: Action on Dan to get reply from commenter:
email from PaulC to PaulD

3) Need a URI structure to refer to WSDL 1.1 definitions, etc.
Status from Oct 11: deferred a week

8. New Issues since last meeting (not dicussed Oct 11)

a) Add example about policies in the context of relationships between multiple entities, Yakov
Status from Oct 04: not discussed
email from drsecure:

b) Pl. remove references to proprietary documents , Ashok
email from PaulC possible duplicate?

c) Primer uses an Assertion that does not exist , Umit (repeated below)

d) A wg member neutral name is desirable, Umit (repeated below)

9. Primer issues

a) primer/guidelines overlap, Maryann

b) section 4 of the primer overlaps with the guidelines document, Maryann

c) Section 3 overlap of primer with guidelines, Maryann

d) (Primer) Section 2.4-, Maryann

e) A wg member neutral name is desirable, Umit

f) Primer uses an Assertion that does not exist, Umit

10. Optionality tar ball
Status from Oct 11: healthy discussion, to be carried forward on mailing list

a) Policy expressions with no wire manifestation, Sergey
Status: Sergey has opened an issue

b) New Attribute keyword to identify 'local' policies

c) Optional Assertions may not be usable in all circumstances
Status: WG members to review proposed text in Guidelines document.
See thread started by Dan:
See proposal from Umit:
See also this email from Umit:

11. Any other business

12. Adjourn

Received on Sunday, 15 October 2006 14:49:45 UTC