Re: Thoughts on how to coordinate CVS work etc.

I reserved a bridge for your call. Dial in details will follow (you will
get a personal mail, not to the public list).


Felix

Asir Vedamuthu wrote:
> I suggest that we have a call on Monday. How about 11 AM PST?
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> *From:* Maryann Hondo [mailto:mhondo@us.ibm.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2006 3:10 PM
> *To:* Asir Vedamuthu
> *Cc:* Felix Sasaki; public-ws-policy-eds@w3.org;
> public-ws-policy-eds-request@w3.org; Toufic Boubez
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> I actually would prefer a separate time slot as 2 hours is already a
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> I was hoping we could have a call tomorrow, but if everyone is
> travelling is is possible to have a call on Monday?
> Maryann
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> *From:* Toufic Boubez [mailto:tboubez@layer7tech.com] *
> Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2006 12:24 PM*
> To:* Asir Vedamuthu; Maryann Hondo; Felix Sasaki*
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> Sounds good to me. Could we still spend a bit of time before the next
> call in order to get organized and start the work on the current items?
>  --  Toufic
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> From:* Asir Vedamuthu [mailto:asirveda@microsoft.com] *
> Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:17 PM*
> To:* Maryann Hondo; Felix Sasaki*
> Cc:* public-ws-policy-eds@w3.org; Toufic Boubez*
> Subject:* RE: Thoughts on how to coordinate CVS work etc.
> Here is a proposal: meet for 30 minutes after the WG conference call.
> Thoughts?
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> I suggest that we think about parallel execution (instead of locking
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> I added change logs to both the framework and attachment documents.
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> [mailto:public-ws-policy-eds-request@w3.org] *On Behalf Of *Maryann Hondo*
> Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:02 AM*
> To:* Felix Sasaki*
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> Toufic Boubez wrote:
>> Prasad, Good rules, thanks.
>> Editors,
>> Could we have an editors call relatively soon? I'd like to get an
>> understanding of how we're going to work together, and start
>> distributing the workload. I'm not sure how many are traveling today
>> after the adjournment (I know at least Maryann is), or tomorrow (I'm
>> traveling in the afternoon). Can we get on the phone tomorrow morning?
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> do you want to establish a regular editor's call and use the zakim
> bridge? If yes, please tell me the day / time / duration / occurrence
> (like every week / every second week), and I can make the bridge
> reservation.
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> Felix
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>> Any suggestions? Thanks!  --  Toufic
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>> Toufic Boubez, Ph.D.
>> Chief Technology Officer
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>>     -----Original Message-----
>>     *From:* public-ws-policy-eds-request@w3.org
>>     [mailto:public-ws-policy-eds-request@w3.org] *On Behalf Of *Prasad
>>     Yendluri
>>     *Sent:* Wednesday, July 12, 2006 6:16 PM
>>     *To:* public-ws-policy-eds@w3.org
>>     *Subject:* Thoughts on how to coordinate CVS work etc.
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>>     Folks,
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>>     Here is what we had been doing to coordinate editing work with some
>>     other efforts I had been involved with, that also use CVS:
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>>        1. When issues get resolved editors accept ownership of a subset
>>           of the issues based on their availability and ownership of the
>>           pertinent area of the spec etc. People play good sport and
>>           take turns to distribute the load evenly amongst all the folks
>>           available.
>>        2. Generally we have assigned ownership to a doc but not to a
>>           subsection of the doc, to make sure a section does not suffer
>>           due to unavailability of an editor. Also if an unreasonable
>>           number of issues are scoped to a section, then the owner is
>>           unfairly burdened etc.  
>>        3. Taking ownership of the issues is typically done the editors
>>           call (typically every 2 weeks 1 hour, immediately following
>>           the WG call), after looking at the list of all closed issues
>>           and AIs pending incorporation into the specs. We also decide
>>           who goes first, who goes next etc. We also plan for a final
>>           date for completing all the assigned tasks and how long each
>>           one needs. We also send a note to the list with the details of
>>           the above, so that everyone knows and *remembers* what they
>>           agreed to etc.
>>        4. Then when an editors starts work, the editor sends a note to
>>           the editors list that he / she is claiming the “pen” for doc.
>>           And when the pen is released, the editors list is notified
>>           again, so that the next one in the list can pick up the pen.
>>        5. This could seem complex process but, in my experience it has
>>           proven to be very smooth and worked really well. It prevented
>>           people from stepping on each other’s work or needlessly
>>           waiting for others to complete their work, when no one was
>>           really doing something etc.
>>        6. In terms of tracking the changes in the doc, we made sure an
>>           entry is added in the revision history table each time some
>>           one checks-in a new version.  Each entry contains the identity
>>           of the person that made the change, revision number (same as
>>           CVS revision number), a brief description of the changes made
>>           identifying the issue number, AI number etc. as applicable.
>>             The revision history table is placed at the end of the
>>           document. WSDL 2.0 has a god example of it.
>>        7. Since we are editing an xml document, I have found it useful
>>           to do a spell check and also to generate the HTML version and
>>           review, prior to check-in.
>>        8. BTW, how do we plan to track the issues list from the editors’
>>           perspective? That is, which issues have been incorporated and
>>           which issues are closed and pending application to the spec
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>>     Just some inputs for discussion.
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>>     Regards,
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>>     Prasad
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