- From: Yaron Y. Goland <ygoland@bea.com>
- Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 15:49:38 -0700
- To: "Martin Chapman" <martin.chapman@oracle.com>, "Assaf Arkin" <arkin@intalio.com>, "Steve Ross-Talbot" <steve@enigmatec.net>
- Cc: "Jean-Jacques Dubray" <jjd@eigner.com>, "'Burdett, David'" <david.burdett@commerceone.com>, <Daniel_Austin@grainger.com>, <public-ws-chor@w3.org>
To quote from section 1 of our charter "The language(s) should build upon the foundation of the Web Service Description Language 1.2 (WSDL 1.2)." Yaron > -----Original Message----- > From: public-ws-chor-request@w3.org > [mailto:public-ws-chor-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of Martin Chapman > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 7:53 AM > To: Assaf Arkin; Steve Ross-Talbot > Cc: Jean-Jacques Dubray; 'Burdett, David'; Daniel_Austin@grainger.com; > public-ws-chor@w3.org > Subject: RE: Straw-man Proposal for our mission statement > > > > Asaf, > > A very good point as to which part of wsdl (abstract, concrete). > > We need to also consider which version of wsdl. Should we tie ourselves to > the yet to be completed wsdl 1.2 or use 1.1. > The disadvantage of 1.2 is that it is not stable at the present. > This could > also be an advantage, as it provides a possibility for this group to input > requirements, and give opinions on proposed directions. > > Martin. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: public-ws-chor-request@w3.org > > [mailto:public-ws-chor-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of Assaf Arkin > > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 2:52 AM > > To: Steve Ross-Talbot > > Cc: Jean-Jacques Dubray; 'Burdett, David'; Daniel_Austin@grainger.com; > > public-ws-chor@w3.org > > Subject: Re: Straw-man Proposal for our mission statement > > > > > > > > Steve Ross-Talbot wrote: > > > > > > > > I have made this WSDL non-WSDL a topic for discussion at the call > > > later today. > > > I'd like to get a summary of the views expressed so far ... any > > > volunteers? > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Steve T > > > > Here's a list of what I've heard so far. I've tried my best to express > > the view as briefly and broadly as possible, so people who support one > > or more views can elaborate more. Listed from least to most likely to > > focuse solely on WSDL: > > > > 1. We need to define choreographies in abstract terms. Use of WSDL is an > > implementation detail. > > > > 2. We need to define abstract choreographies with bindings to multiple > > technologies, including but not limited to WSDL. > > > > 3. Using WSDL prevents us from supporting other specifications that > > address RM, security, transactions, etc. > > > > 4. You can't write a good choreography language using WSDL, but you can > > bind a good choreography to WSDL. > > > > 5. The interesting capabilities are already supported by WSDL and > > specifications that extend WSDL. > > > > 6. Being a W3C WG implies ... > > > > Feel free to add, remove, expand, donate 2 cents, etc ... > > > > > > I want to add one request for clarification. I did that a few times > > before, I hope a few people would be willing to take on it this time. > > > > WSDL encapsulates two layers within the same specification that > > personally I would have liked to see written as two different parts of > > the same specification for better clarity (similar to the two parts in > > XSDL and SOAP). > > > > One layer deals with abstract service types as defined by their > > interface implying what the service looks like but not any particular > > service. The other layer deals with actual services as defined by their > > end-points, protocol binding and the interface they support. > > > > Someone may say "I don't like the specification to refer to WSDL > > services" and someone else may say "I like the specification to refer to > > WSDL interfaces". These two points of view are not contradictory in any > > way. However they do become contradictory if we don't specify what part > > of WSDL we refer to. > > > > So if anyone has an opinion for or against WSDL, can you please clarify > > whether you refer to the WSDL services, WSDL interfaces or WSDL whole. I > > think that alone would bring a bit more agreement into the discussion. > > > > arkin > > > > > > > >
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