- From: Hugo Haas <hugo@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 20:02:45 +0200
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[1]W3C
Web Services Addressing WG call
21 oct 2004
[2]Agenda
See also: [3]IRC log
Attendees
Present
Hugo, Mark_Nottingham, Michael.Eder, Mark.Peel, Jonathan_Marsh,
Rebecca.Bergersen, Harris, Bob.Freund, J.Mischkinsky,
Steve.Winkler, Paco, JacekK, Anish, Ales.Novy, Dave.Orchard,
Marc.Hadley, Yin-Leng
Regrets
Chair
Mark Nottingham
Scribe
hugo
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Agenda review, AOB
2. [6]Working Group process and administrivia
3. [7]Work items and schedule
4. [8]NYC Face-to-Face
* [9]Summary of Action Items
_________________________________________________________________
<scribe> Scribe: hugo
Agenda review, AOB
Nothing technical today
Working Group process and administrivia
Mark: the charter is at [10]http://www.w3.org/2004/09/wsa-charter.html
... it's based on the W3C process, which is consensus-based
... it's also under the W3C patent policy
... we have 2 mailing lists: a member one for administrative matters, and
the public list is for technical matters
... in case we communicate with groups that don't work in public, we may use
the member-confidential list
... if you have issues accessing parts of the Web site, contact Hugo
... minutes should be taken on IRC
<mnot> [11]http://www.w3.org/1998/12/bridge/info/name.php3
Mark: it helps to take action items, keep track of the queue, etc.
<mnot> [12]http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/36696/telcontime/
Mark: for telcon times, it's going to be tough to pick a time
... it should be linked from the WG page
<scribe> ACTION: Hugo to link polls from home page
Jonathan: are you going to send the agenda to the member list or the public
list?
Mark: any preference?
<anish> i prefer that the agenda goes to public
Jeff: we use the public list in WSD
... except for regrets and call-in numbers
Mark: ok, let's try that then
... please note that if you can't make it to the meeting, please send
regrets to the administrative list
... I'd like to make a decision on telcon times next week
... please answer ASAP
... we will need to take minutes
... I'll make a call for volunteers, otherwise we'll do a round-robin among
WG members
... IRC is not required, but preferred
<Marsh> [13]http://www.w3.org/2001/01/cgi-irc
Jonathan: IRC gets very useful as soon as lots of people join
Mark: we'll have F2Fs every 1.5 months to start with
... we should have one in December, and one in Jan
... I have set up a poll
... we should have one in Europe, one on the West Coast, then at the Tech
Plen
Jonathan: the WSDWG is interested in colocating
... there is a big overlap
... we have been looking at January
... we can work on this on the CG call
Marc: I am wondering if we are going to have critical mass with such a
frequency
MarkN: the charter is pretty clear about this
... actually, this is related to good standing
<dorchard> is it really miss 1 in 3?
MarkN: not attending too many meetings in a row may place you in bad
standing
<plh>
[14]http://www.w3.org/2004/02/Process-20040205/groups.html#good-standing
MarkN: if we have too many people not in good standing, we will see how it
impacts the req for quorum
Jeff: what rules will you be using for good standing?
<dorchard> yeah, it's miss more than 1 in 3 meetings.
MarkN: [ quotes the process / URL above ]
... this has to be applied evenly in the WG
... this will be applied pretty strictly
Jeff: I note that there will be telcons during holidays
Mark: we'll have to figure things out for holidays
DaveO: both reps count for resetting the standing counter
Jeff: how do you get it back if you lose it?
Mark: you basically participate regularly
... with regards to the issues process:
... I would like to callect issues starting next week at the F2F
... I would like to see for each issue a description of the issue, and a
fairly fleshed out resolution proposal
... also, which specifications it applies to should be specified
... re decision making: it's a consensus-based process
... if we can't establish consensus, we'll use a formal vote with simple
majority
... issues won't be reopen without new evidence
Work items and schedule
Mark: Basis of work: WS-Addressing
... deliverables:
... Web Services Addressing specification
... Web Services Addressing SOAP 1.1 and SOAP 1.2 Binding specification
... Web Services Addressing WSDL 1.1 and WSDL 2.0 Binding specification
... Test suite, with 4 interoperable implementations
... we have a fair amount of work ahead of us
... re editors: if you are interested in becoming an editor, please contact
Hugo and I
... since we have a tight schedule, I'm going to be inclined to choose
somebody with W3C editing experince, but it's not a req
... for use cases, we will use this as a motivation to make decisions
Anish: is SOAP 1.1 and WSDL 1.1 being normatively referenced from a Rec an
exception?
Mark: no; note that there will be time next week to discussed issues derived
from the charter
NYC Face-to-Face
Mark: I'd like us to walk out with a good understanding of the issues we
face
... also, we need to get to know each other
Jonathan: I'm interested in knowing what our implementation story is
... who has implementations? who has test suites to help us for CR stage?
Mark: I'll get a revised agenda out today
... note that there is a reading list
... please register before tonight midnight:
[15]http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/36696/addr200410/
<harris> dinner Monday sounds good
Mark: it is traditional to have a group dinner
... maybe on Monday
Paco: I'll look for places to go to
<Rebecca> bye
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Hugo to link polls from home page [recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2004/10/21-ws-addr-irc#T17-12-43]
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References
1. http://www.w3.org/
2. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-addressing/2004Oct/0022.html
3. http://www.w3.org/2004/10/21-ws-addr-irc
4. http://www.w3.org/2004/10/21-ws-addr-minutes.html#agenda
5. http://www.w3.org/2004/10/21-ws-addr-minutes.html#item01
6. http://www.w3.org/2004/10/21-ws-addr-minutes.html#item02
7. http://www.w3.org/2004/10/21-ws-addr-minutes.html#item03
8. http://www.w3.org/2004/10/21-ws-addr-minutes.html#item04
9. http://www.w3.org/2004/10/21-ws-addr-minutes.html#ActionSummary
10. http://www.w3.org/2004/09/wsa-charter.html
11. http://www.w3.org/1998/12/bridge/info/name.php3
12. http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/36696/telcontime/
13. http://www.w3.org/2001/01/cgi-irc
14. http://www.w3.org/2004/02/Process-20040205/groups.html#good-standing
15. http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/36696/addr200410/
16. http://www.w3.org/2004/10/21-ws-addr-irc#T17-12-43
17. http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribe.perl
18. http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/scribe.perl
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