- From: Glen Daniels <gdaniels@sonicsoftware.com>
- Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 14:05:51 -0400
- To: "Hugo Haas" <hugo@w3.org>, <public-ws-addressing@w3.org>
Hi Hugo: Philippe and I both showed up late, but were present. --Glen > -----Original Message----- > From: public-ws-addressing-request@w3.org > [mailto:public-ws-addressing-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Hugo Haas > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 11:03 AM > To: public-ws-addressing@w3.org > Subject: Minutes of the 2004-10-21 teleconference > > ... are available at: > > http://www.w3.org/2004/10/21-ws-addr-minutes.html > > Please note that this is the scribe's copy. > > Text dump follows: > > > [1]W3C > > Web Services Addressing WG call > 21 oct 2004 > > [2]Agenda > > See also: [3]IRC log > > Attendees > > Present > Hugo, Mark_Nottingham, Michael.Eder, Mark.Peel, > Jonathan_Marsh, > Rebecca.Bergersen, Harris, Bob.Freund, J.Mischkinsky, > Steve.Winkler, Paco, JacekK, Anish, Ales.Novy, Dave.Orchard, > Marc.Hadley, Yin-Leng > > Regrets > > Chair > Mark Nottingham > > Scribe > hugo > > Contents > > * [4]Topics > 1. [5]Agenda review, AOB > 2. [6]Working Group process and administrivia > 3. [7]Work items and schedule > 4. [8]NYC Face-to-Face > * [9]Summary of Action Items > _________________________________________________________________ > > <scribe> Scribe: hugo > > Agenda review, AOB > > Nothing technical today > > Working Group process and administrivia > > Mark: the charter is at > [10]http://www.w3.org/2004/09/wsa-charter.html > ... it's based on the W3C process, which is consensus-based > ... it's also under the W3C patent policy > ... we have 2 mailing lists: a member one for > administrative matters, and > the public list is for technical matters > ... in case we communicate with groups that don't work in > public, we may use > the member-confidential list > ... if you have issues accessing parts of the Web site, > contact Hugo > ... minutes should be taken on IRC > > <mnot> [11]http://www.w3.org/1998/12/bridge/info/name.php3 > > Mark: it helps to take action items, keep track of the queue, etc. > > <mnot> [12]http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/36696/telcontime/ > > Mark: for telcon times, it's going to be tough to pick a time > ... it should be linked from the WG page > > <scribe> ACTION: Hugo to link polls from home page > > Jonathan: are you going to send the agenda to the member > list or the public > list? > > Mark: any preference? > > <anish> i prefer that the agenda goes to public > > Jeff: we use the public list in WSD > ... except for regrets and call-in numbers > > Mark: ok, let's try that then > ... please note that if you can't make it to the meeting, > please send > regrets to the administrative list > ... I'd like to make a decision on telcon times next week > ... please answer ASAP > ... we will need to take minutes > ... I'll make a call for volunteers, otherwise we'll do a > round-robin among > WG members > ... IRC is not required, but preferred > > <Marsh> [13]http://www.w3.org/2001/01/cgi-irc > > Jonathan: IRC gets very useful as soon as lots of people join > > Mark: we'll have F2Fs every 1.5 months to start with > ... we should have one in December, and one in Jan > ... I have set up a poll > ... we should have one in Europe, one on the West Coast, > then at the Tech > Plen > > Jonathan: the WSDWG is interested in colocating > ... there is a big overlap > ... we have been looking at January > ... we can work on this on the CG call > > Marc: I am wondering if we are going to have critical mass > with such a > frequency > > MarkN: the charter is pretty clear about this > ... actually, this is related to good standing > > <dorchard> is it really miss 1 in 3? > > MarkN: not attending too many meetings in a row may place > you in bad > standing > > <plh> > > [14]http://www.w3.org/2004/02/Process-20040205/groups.html#goo > d-standing > > MarkN: if we have too many people not in good standing, we > will see how it > impacts the req for quorum > > Jeff: what rules will you be using for good standing? > > <dorchard> yeah, it's miss more than 1 in 3 meetings. > > MarkN: [ quotes the process / URL above ] > ... this has to be applied evenly in the WG > ... this will be applied pretty strictly > > Jeff: I note that there will be telcons during holidays > > Mark: we'll have to figure things out for holidays > > DaveO: both reps count for resetting the standing counter > > Jeff: how do you get it back if you lose it? > > Mark: you basically participate regularly > ... with regards to the issues process: > ... I would like to callect issues starting next week at the F2F > ... I would like to see for each issue a description of > the issue, and a > fairly fleshed out resolution proposal > ... also, which specifications it applies to should be specified > ... re decision making: it's a consensus-based process > ... if we can't establish consensus, we'll use a formal > vote with simple > majority > ... issues won't be reopen without new evidence > > Work items and schedule > > Mark: Basis of work: WS-Addressing > ... deliverables: > ... Web Services Addressing specification > ... Web Services Addressing SOAP 1.1 and SOAP 1.2 Binding > specification > ... Web Services Addressing WSDL 1.1 and WSDL 2.0 Binding > specification > ... Test suite, with 4 interoperable implementations > ... we have a fair amount of work ahead of us > ... re editors: if you are interested in becoming an > editor, please contact > Hugo and I > ... since we have a tight schedule, I'm going to be > inclined to choose > somebody with W3C editing experince, but it's not a req > ... for use cases, we will use this as a motivation to > make decisions > > Anish: is SOAP 1.1 and WSDL 1.1 being normatively > referenced from a Rec an > exception? > > Mark: no; note that there will be time next week to > discussed issues derived > from the charter > > NYC Face-to-Face > > Mark: I'd like us to walk out with a good understanding of > the issues we > face > ... also, we need to get to know each other > > Jonathan: I'm interested in knowing what our > implementation story is > ... who has implementations? who has test suites to help > us for CR stage? > > Mark: I'll get a revised agenda out today > ... note that there is a reading list > ... please register before tonight midnight: > [15]http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/36696/addr200410/ > > <harris> dinner Monday sounds good > > Mark: it is traditional to have a group dinner > ... maybe on Monday > > Paco: I'll look for places to go to > > <Rebecca> bye > > Summary of Action Items > > [NEW] ACTION: Hugo to link polls from home page [recorded in > [16]http://www.w3.org/2004/10/21-ws-addr-irc#T17-12-43] > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Minutes formatted by David Booth's [17]scribe.perl 1.92 > ([18]CVS log) > $Date: 2004/10/21 17:58:21 $ > > References > > 1. http://www.w3.org/ > 2. > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-addressing/2004O > ct/0022.html > 3. http://www.w3.org/2004/10/21-ws-addr-irc > 4. http://www.w3.org/2004/10/21-ws-addr-minutes.html#agenda > 5. http://www.w3.org/2004/10/21-ws-addr-minutes.html#item01 > 6. http://www.w3.org/2004/10/21-ws-addr-minutes.html#item02 > 7. http://www.w3.org/2004/10/21-ws-addr-minutes.html#item03 > 8. http://www.w3.org/2004/10/21-ws-addr-minutes.html#item04 > 9. http://www.w3.org/2004/10/21-ws-addr-minutes.html#ActionSummary > 10. http://www.w3.org/2004/09/wsa-charter.html > 11. http://www.w3.org/1998/12/bridge/info/name.php3 > 12. http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/36696/telcontime/ > 13. http://www.w3.org/2001/01/cgi-irc > 14. > http://www.w3.org/2004/02/Process-20040205/groups.html#good-standing > 15. http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/36696/addr200410/ > 16. http://www.w3.org/2004/10/21-ws-addr-irc#T17-12-43 > 17. http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribe.perl > 18. http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/scribe.perl > > -- > Hugo Haas - W3C > mailto:hugo@w3.org - http://www.w3.org/People/Hugo/ >
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