- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 20:57:48 +0900
- To: public-wot-ig@w3.org, public-wot-wg@w3.org
available at:
https://www.w3.org/2020/07/22-wot-minutes.html
also as text below.
Thanks a lot for taking the minutes, Daniel!
Kazuyuki
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WoT-IG/WG
22 Jul 2020
Attendees
Present
Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Sebastian_Kaebisch,
Christian_Kurze, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Daniel_Peintner,
Dave_Raggett, David_Ezell, Ege_Korkan, Jennifer_Lin,
Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster, Michael_Lagally,
Tomoaki_Mizushima, Ryuichi_Matsukura
Regrets
Chair
Sebastian
Scribe
dape
Contents
* [2]Topics
1. [3]Agenda
2. [4]Quick Updates
3. [5]T2TRG meeting
4. [6]Web meeting overview
5. [7]Possible new slot for the first Architecture call
6. [8]ITU-T liaison
7. [9]Publication schedule
8. [10]WoT Application Manager
9. [11]F2F meeting
10. [12]TF reports
* [13]Summary of Action Items
* [14]Summary of Resolutions
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Agenda
Sebastian: Plan today:
... * Guests
... * Approving minutes (let's do it next week)
... * ITU-T Liaison
... * Cristiano presenting tools he is working on
... 2 expected guests
... GyuMyoung Lee from ITU-T and Christian Kurze from MongoDB
... Gyu is not here today (so far)
... Christian is aware of the W3C Patent Policy
Christian: SW solution architecture at MongoDB
... interop problems with different devices
... what does data tell me
... automation is important
... JSON-LD is important. MongoDB is JSON-based
Sebastian: Suggest inviting Christian to discovery task force
McCool: Makes perfect sense
... have already Fraunhofer solution. 2nd implementation would
be very beneficial
Christian: Sounds good
... semantic search struggle nowadays once data scales
McCool: small devices support is also of importance
... discovery call, 4pm CET
Christian: Can join on Monday
Sebastian: CK is aware of W3C policy
T2TRG meeting
Sebastian: T2TRG meeting
McCool: several things were reviewed
... interesting discussions
... still some links missing
... e.g., Matthias talked about OPC-UA
... suggest defer this to next week till presentations are up
Web meeting overview
Sebastian: WoT call table
... Kaz created nice Web meetings overview
... Note: TD call is today now (not any longer on Friday)
<kaz> [15]Web meeting overview
[15] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_Page#WebConf_Meetings
Koster: had issues finding the table
... might have clicked on the wrong table
McCool: Did we check TD links within all the TF wikis?
Kaz: Yes, fixed all links (also will add links from all the TF
calls back to the WoT IG/WG main wiki page which includes the
Web meeting overview table)
Possible new slot for the first Architecture call
Sebastian: Doodle poll ongoing about 1st Architecture call
... merge to one call?
Lagally: Several options
... extend call
... stay were we are
... shift 1st call to later time
... please fill in information
<sebastian> [16]doodle for possible new Architecture slot
[16] https://doodle.com/poll/wtxn2wffxvd8fuvy
<mlagally_> Please respond to the Architecture doodle poll by
the end of this week, so we have all information at hands to
make a decision.
ITU-T liaison
Sebastian: ITU liaison, Gyu is not yet here
... they've confirmed the liaison on the ITU-T side
... offical liaison to be established soon
Kaz: GyuMyoung was expected to send a liaison request to
team-liaisons list. he sent me the information privately and
asked me to team-liaisons, so I'll do so
Sebastian: Ilyoung Chong joins use case call tomorrow to show
ITU-T documents summary
Lagally: Presentation tomorrow by ITU-T fine even though the
liaison request is not confirmed yet?
Kaz: Yes
<inserted> [17]Use Case call agenda
[17] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_UseCase_WebConf#Agenda_22.7.
Publication schedule
Sebastian: Schedule
... we are a bit behind schedule
... should discuss this in each task force group
Lagally: Architecture: Sept 2020 is still the plan
Sebastian: Will discuss TD 1.1 agenda for FPWD today also
WoT Application Manager
Cristiano: I am ready, no presenter right so far
... I prepared some slides
... 2 tools: WoT Application Manager and TD-code
... WoT Application Manager: helps to correctly initialize WoT
application project
... node.js is the only requirement
... oriented to vscode projects
... WAM has bundling capabilities
... code completion support
... basic support for templating
... plan to add feature to download templete from GitHub
... WAM was made for node-wot
... ease the start of node-wot
... could be used for other environments as well
... Demo
... start with node installation
... "wam init demo" --> Language Selection --> name -> version
-> ...
... once project is created "npm install" installs basic
dependencies
... TD-code is another tool
... minimal vscode extension for validation and TD support
McCool: vocabulary extensions?
Cristiano: solve with vscode extensions, work on going
... back to WAM
... project ready, tsconfig file created
... servient config also
... td.json extension kicks in
<McCool> should capture links for tools; one option that I
mentioned is here:
[18]https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/tree/master/tools
[18] https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/tree/master/tools
<McCool> ... however... we might also want to discuss this
under "Marketing", since this is dev tool, not a testing tool
Cristiano: code completion works just fine
... when coding similar support is given
... WoT and WotHelpers namespaces
... code completion / suggestions
... documentation is shown next to method also
... package.json has pre-set scripts like build, debug and
start
... bundle.js + map for debugging also
... debugging works with "npm run debug"
... can paste links on IRC
<cris> [19]https://github.com/UniBO-PRISMLab/wam
[19] https://github.com/UniBO-PRISMLab/wam
Sebastian: Thank you
McCool: Fantastic work
<cris>
[20]https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=arces-w
ot.td-code
[20] https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=arces-wot.td-code
McCool: where do we capture documentation for tools
... tutorials and videos would be helpful
... talk about it in marketing call
<kaz> +1
Sebastian: Cristiano, can you share the presentations
... will check
Cristiano: marketing repo?
Sebastian: Yes, makes sense
[21]Cristiano's presentation slides
[21] https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/blob/master/docs/developers/WoT Application Manager.pdf
Jennifer: Video what you showed would be great
... explains more than slides
Cristiano: Will try ;-)
Sebastian: Cristiano, thank you
... let's pick it up in marketing call
Kaz: Note: we can put videos on W3C youtube channel also
F2F meeting
Sebastian: see options in doodle poll
<sebastian> [22]https://doodle.com/poll/vywd8dpu2ge56mma
[22] https://doodle.com/poll/vywd8dpu2ge56mma
Sebastian: please mark your preference
... w.r.t. Pune we have to see what happens with Corona et
cetera
TF reports
Daniel: Scripting: Talked about issues, decided to do a
publication soon, open topic w.r.t. TD, ...
McCool: Security: OAuth2 flows
... Discovery: we have basic document
... PoC: discussed use cases
... PlugFest: preliminary discussion what to do. Need to
schedule main call first
Sebastian: Thing Description
... minutes: security, open issues, dynamic TDs
Lagally: No use-case call last week
... pending PRs
... converting markdown files to HTML
... will have presentation from ITU-T tomorrow
... noon, CET time
... w.r.t. Prioritazion we have stakholders
... Architecture: only morning call
... walked over profile strawman
... use it as starting point
... need resolution to make current profile strawman to
baseline
Sebastian: Need more time to review
(Lagally mentions he would discuss it during the Architecture
calls tomorrow; and Kaz suggests we'll revisit it during the
main call next week)
Sebastian: no marketing call last week
McCool: tomorrow's marketing call will happen
Koster: another conflict soon
McCool: If so we should re-think call time
... testing call: 15 minutes past the hour
[adjourned]
<kaz> [5-min break; PlugFest/Testing call on the same WebEx but
on the #wot-pf IRC channel]
Summary of Action Items
Summary of Resolutions
[End of minutes]
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