- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 21:51:43 +0900
- To: public-wot-ig@w3.org, public-wot-wg@w3.org
available at:
https://www.w3.org/2020/06/19-wot-pf-minutes.html
also as text below.
Thanks a lot for taking the minutes, Daniel!
Kazuyuki
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
- DRAFT -
PlugFest/Testing
19 Jun 2020
[2]Agenda
[2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/PlugFest_WebConf#Agenda_06.19.2020
Attendees
Present
Kaz_Ashimura, Benjamin_Braun, Cristiano_Aguzzi,
Daniel_Peintner, Ege_Korkan, Farshid_Tavakolizadeh,
Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Lagally, Michael_McCool,
Miguel_Romero, Ryuichi_Matsukura, Tomoaki_Mizushima,
Sebastian_Kaebisch
Regrets
Chair
McCool
Scribe
dape
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]Agenda
2. [5]Review of PRs
3. [6]Wrap-up
* [7]Summary of Action Items
* [8]Summary of Resolutions
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<kaz> scribenick: dape
Agenda
<kaz> McCool: (checks the agenda for today)
Review of PRs
McCool: Was not able to finish my PR about report generation
<kaz> [9]PRs
[9] https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pulls
<inserted> [10]PR 16
[10] https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/16
McCool: let's merge validation PR#16
... validation scripts are now in
... report generation needs more work
<kaz> [11]PR 28
[11] https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/28
Farshid: worked on tool for TD sync
... python script does the work
McCool: Suggest merging PR
... tool re-ordering can be done later if we have multiple
tools
... We also need to document SoftEther setup
... let's create issue for that
Ege: Pushed Wade results already... without PR
... last column in WADE.csv is the result
<kaz> [12]WADE.csv
[12] https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/blob/master/events/2020.06.Online/data/dynamic/WADE.csv
McCool: Can we organize it based on manual assertions
... we should have kind of these results in general.. not only
about WADE
Ege: We can restructure the presentation
McCool: We should have a way to create a test dashboard
automatically... with categories et cetera
... rigth now we have single pass/failed. we might want to
expand the information.
Ege: Could think of "op" field keyword, protocol, security
McCool: Suggest expanding template. Add TODOs in
data/interop/README.md
Ege: For complete testing we can still use test-bench
McCool: CSV should be usable for manual editing but may also
contain additional information
... DP added id's for Siemens TDs
Daniel: Correct, to overcome auto generated id creation issue
by directory
<inserted> [13]Issue 22
[13] https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/issues/22
McCool: related to issue#22
Wrap-up
McCool: on Tuesday during VF2F we have PlugFest report
... please add comments to issue tracker
... e.g., yesterday we discussed xpath vs. Json path
... see issue #29
<inserted> [14]Issue 29
[14] https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/issues/29
Ege: XPath supports JSON querying .. in recent version
... issue exists in discovery repo
Farshid: New version supports arrays
McCool: JSON path might be less powerful ..
<Ege>
[15]https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/17#issuecomment
-621190733
[15] https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/17#issuecomment-621190733
Farshid: Yes, but there is no formal specification either...
... there is also difference in implementation supporting
certain features
<kaz> [16]JSONata
[16] https://jsonata.org/
MR: There is also JSONata, used by nodered
McCool: Miguel, please comment in issue
MR: will do
McCool: 2 outcomes so far
... 1. primary key
... 2. XPath features
Farshid: Issue with types, ..thing vs. directory
... will create issue
<miguelrk> JSONata: an alternative JSON query and
transformation language ([17]https://jsonata.org/)
[17] https://jsonata.org/)
McCool: Need to figure out how many types we need
... information model needs to contain timestamp and id
... let's discuss this topic in discovery
... One other topic is VPN. Question: was it useful?
... VPN was essential for :
... - using mDNS hostnames to avoid issues with IP changing
... - using local DNS-SD for discovery
... Future testing:
... - mapping from fixed URL
... Useful:
... - testing NAT traversal
Ege: Not sure who was dependent on VPN?
McCool: easier to bring up device inside VPN
... less security troubles
... no security on the Internet would not be a good idea
Ege: Device owner issue
McCool: For PF report we do not have much time
Sebatian: w.r.t. to XPath, JSON path. Did you look into JSON LD
prefixes and the related issue
McCool: looked at it in discovery TF
... we have various issues here
[18]Issues identified during the online PlugFest
[18] https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/issues?q=is:issue+is:open+label:"Plugfest+Outcome"
Sebatian: Can discuss with JSON-LD group
Koster: Need light weight query solution
McCool: We need standard, JSON path isn't
Koster: there is also JSON Patch
[19]JSON Patch
[19] http://jsonpatch.com/
McCool/Koster: We should start with uses case
McCool: Any PF outcome for report
<Zakim> kaz, you wanted to suggest we add "PlugFest outcome"
label as well to issue 29 and 22 (and some more possible ones)
Kaz: suggest adding label to issues w.r.t. PF outcome
McCool: Good idea
Farshid: I also have some slides. I will use them on Monday
Kaz: Do we want to invite JSON-LD people?
McCool: packed.. should definetly invite them for discovery
call
... DID is coming to VF2F
Koster: We could let JSON-LD know that we have F2F... maybe one
has time to show up
McCool: One other issue is having validation/report ready
before PF
Koster: Are we planning to go on with validation... with
experimental stuff
McCool: We also had prototypes folder
Koster: Makes sense
McCool: Kaz, can we keep VPN up?
Kaz: checking with the system team
Koster: I also think an ongoing activity makes sense
McCool: Agree
... having an ongoing process makes sense
... devices up would be good
... might need some money to keep server up. Can pay for it
... at least we should archive image
Summary of Action Items
Summary of Resolutions
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