- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 22:35:29 +0900
- To: Public Web of Things IG <public-wot-ig@w3.org>, public-wot-wg@w3.org
available at:
https://www.w3.org/2017/06/28-wot-minutes.html
also as text below.
Thanks a lot for taking these minutes, Michael McCool!
Kazuyuki
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
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WoT IG/WG
28 Jun 2017
[2]Agenda
[2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Agenda
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2017/06/28-wot-irc
Attendees
Present
Kaz_Ashimura, Dave_Raggett, Kunihiko_Toumura,
Michael_McCool, Taki_Kamiya, Tomoaki_Mizushima,
Michael_Koster, Uday_Davuluru, Zoltan_Kis,
Matthias_Kovatsch, Darko_Anicic, Keiichi_Tokuyama,
DarkoAnicic, Achille_Zappa, Yingying_Chen,
Kazuaki_Nimura, Masato_Ohura, Sebastian_Kaebisch,
Katsuyoshi_Naka
Regrets
Chair
Matthias, McCool
Scribe
McCool
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Quick updates
2. [6]node-wot as a deliverable
3. [7]F2F Logistics
4. [8]TF reports
5. [9]TD TF
6. [10]Scripting API
7. [11]Binding Templates
8. [12]Security
* [13]Summary of Action Items
* [14]Summary of Resolutions
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<kaz> scribenick: McCool
Quick updates
tech landscape update: [15]https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/326
[15] https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/326
will merge on Friday if no comments
is one comment from Michael Koster that I will add to the
update
<scribe> new agenda items from chair's meeting: TF overlap,
node-wot becoming a deliverable
<mkovatsc_>
[16]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#28_June_201
7
[16] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#28_June_2017
<Zakim> kaz, you wanted to mention marcomm thing as well
<kaz> Mar/Comm discussion is postponed till next week
node-wot as a deliverable
issue is to make collaboration easier, it's easier if it is an
official deliverable
also necessary to satisfy the "testing" deliverable
Matthias: no problem from Siemens, but have started to look at
Eclipse Foundation, need to make sure there is not conflict
if it ends up at the Eclipse Foundation, then submitter needs
to make sure they are party to the IPR agreement
this is consistent with the needs of W3C... Eclipse Foundation
will make sure it is "IP Clean"
so we
we would like to make a conditional resolution that this is
something we want to pursue, conditional on clearing these
issues
no objections noted... so we will proceed.
will try to resolve the remaining issues.
F2F Logistics
<kaz> [17]registration results
[17] https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/WoTF2F201707/results
about 40 people registered
kaz sent out invitations to observers; we invited most to
entire event, except for one that did not respond to Kaz's
questions
Uday to summarize status and outstanding issues
one issue was hotel bookings... bad link, wrong code...
has been resolved except for...
one person, kaz has been contacting him but got no response
about his hotel booking either
some outstanding questions still...
<mkovatsc_>
[18]https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/WoTF2F201707/results
[18] https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/WoTF2F201707/results
everyone should go to results page and go to point 6 and make
sure information is correct
another issue: displays. who needs them?
room only has one display and projector
so the question is, can Uday provide screens locally? Yes... up
to two only.
two *monitors* with HDMI inputs
plugfest preparation?
plugfest is on Sunday (internal) and then demos on Monday as
part of OpenDay
Sunday morning will for plugfest setup
need specific list of attendees for Sunday
Uday will check schedule, but assumes it will be from 8am
but need concrete number for conference center
those who need monitors, please email UDay
but... fellow named Francesco may not be on call, Kaz needs to
send an email to connect with UDay
Kaz has created a mailing list for all registrants, can also
send a reminder there
need to finalize input so we can start scheduling
people should note timing preferences
eg if someone can only come certain days; if remote, should say
if morning or afternoon is better for them
please put notes in wiki - names under what sessions you want
to attend
should finalize input end of this week... will be doing final
scheduling early next week
so TFs should create breakouts they intend to hold ASAP
TF reports
TD TF
last Friday - current practices now applied for TD
relatively small changes in the structure
some information in there on how to use semantic annotation
also there is a proposal for a protocol binding
but no link... have asked MK to make a pull request to put a
link into the main document (current practices)
MK did create a pull request last night
would be good to have a small slide set describing use of
semantics in TD
Scripting API
talked about concept of "origin" used in Web runtimes, and
whether it applied... or not
talked about protocol bindings and runtime and execution model
<kaz> [19]Scripting call summary
[19] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-wg/2017Jun/0033.html
for plugfest, doing OCF binding for plugfest
but, IoTivity just complicates things... and OCF is just a
special case of CoAP
so we are thinking of just adding protocol binding to generate
OCF requests via a CoAP protocol
that works for basic resource requests, but we may have to come
back and look at this again for discovery, security, etc.
Matthias: port demos to new versions, share scripts in
different implementations?
test cases are about network interop, not script interop
Nimura-san also has runtime implementation; but no time to
update to current specification before F2F
where is the lastest version?
<zkis>
[20]http://w3c.github.io/wot/current-practices/wot-practices.ht
ml#scripting-api
[20] http://w3c.github.io/wot/current-practices/wot-practices.html#scripting-api
<zkis> [21]https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api
[21] https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api
<mkovatsc_> [22]https://w3c.github.io/wot-scripting-api/
[22] https://w3c.github.io/wot-scripting-api/
<zkis>
[23]https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/blob/master/primer
.md
[23] https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/blob/master/primer.md
<zkis>
[24]https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/blob/master/ration
ale.md
[24] https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/blob/master/rationale.md
but some examples would be very useful
there are many in current practices
spec parts should be removed from current practices (eg web
IDL)
some discussion about whether all examples should move to
primer
zkis: it is confusing to have two specs; it should be clear
what is the informal intro and what is the actual specification
... let
... let's create an issues and discuss
Matthias: what is in the current practices is out of date, so
we have to delete it/move it/update it anyway
Nimura: will do his best, but is not sure that can update
implementation to match spec
Matthias: propose removing text about scripting API in current
practices, and replace with link to spec
we need defined goals for the plugfests, need to accommodate
the status of different implementations
Binding Templates
last week sent around doodle to have separate call; overlaps
both TD and SA TFs... too much overlap
<mkovatsc_>
[25]https://ethz.doodle.com/poll/yh3t8237v3v53ram#table
[25] https://ethz.doodle.com/poll/yh3t8237v3v53ram#table
have an initial call... would use Friday 3:30pm European time
but were also planning an OCF implementation call... but these
are related
so we will combine the two calls...
will start out talking about general binding template issues at
3pm European time, then will talk about specific concrete
implementation for OCF binding till 5pm European time
will try to schedule so it works with and does not conflict
with Security TF call
<kaz> RESOLUTION: We'll have a call on Binding Template at
3:00-5:00pm European time on this Friday, June 30th. The first
part will be discussion on general binding template issues and
the second part will be discussion on specific concrete
implementation for OCF binding.
<kaz> [26]3pm Europe in your areas
[26] https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20170630T130000&p1=137&p2=43&p3=136&p4=195&p5=33&p6=235&p7=248
<kaz> ACTION: kaz to allocate a webex at 3-5:30pm in Europe on
Friday, June 30 for the protocol binding discussion [recorded
in [27]http://www.w3.org/2017/06/28-wot-minutes.html#action01]
[27] http://www.w3.org/2017/06/28-wot-minutes.html#action01
Security
security tf: no special reports
[adjourned]
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: kaz to allocate a webex at 3-5:30pm in Europe on
Friday, June 30 for the protocol binding discussion [recorded
in [28]http://www.w3.org/2017/06/28-wot-minutes.html#action01]
[28] http://www.w3.org/2017/06/28-wot-minutes.html#action01
Summary of Resolutions
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