- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 00:20:49 +0900
- To: Public Web of Things IG <public-wot-ig@w3.org>
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Thank you very much for taking these minutes (again), Michael Koster!
Kazuyuki
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[1]W3C
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- DRAFT -
WoT IG - TF-LD
23 Jun 2017
See also: [2]IRC log
[2] http://www.w3.org/2017/06/23-wot-irc
Attendees
Present
Kaz_Ashimura, Dave_Raggett, Maria_Poveda,
Michael_Koster, Michael_McCool, Taki_Kamiya, Aparna,
Danh_Le_Phuoc, Victor_Charpenay, DarkoAnicic
Regrets
Chair
Darko
Scribe
mjkoster
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]F2F prep and three technical topics
2. [5]Semantic processing
3. [6]Thing Description Recipes
* [7]Summary of Action Items
* [8]Summary of Resolutions
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<kaz> scribenick: mjkoster
F2F prep and three technical topics
darko: who on the call is working on vocabularies?
maria: looking at mappings between SAREF and oneM2M
... seems like there are few classes in these models
mccool: working on OCF E-R diagram
dsr: looking at OCF, SAREF and how to create a bridging
ontology
... has done the interaction model and ready for the next step
<MariaPoveda> The mappings between SAREF and oneM2M are here
[9]https://goo.gl/aVG1q2 but there should be an updated version
soon
[9] https://goo.gl/aVG1q2
darko: we could start contributing these results
... folders with examples in the link
... this is the place to contribute
<DanhLePhuoc>
[10]https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/master/linked-data
[10] https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/master/linked-data
<DarkoAnicic> Vocabularies:
[11]https://github.com/wot/blob/master/linked-data/linked-data-
vocabularies.md
[11] https://github.com/wot/blob/master/linked-data/linked-data-vocabularies.md
(discussion on who can accept and how to accept pull requests)
<kaz> kaz: have checked with the WoT Chairs and got OK to
create a GitHub Team for the WoT IG Editors including Darko. So
will create that Team on GitHub.
victor: updated current practices document
... working on exposing SSN information as wot things
darko: what do we want to demonstrate at the plugfest?
danh: do we want to do semantic alignment and mapping?
darko: we are just at the beginning and should start with
something simple
... work toward a common set of terms
... so everyone can discover and integrate using common terms
dsr: even for simple scenarios there is a need for context, at
least location to start with
darko: shall we define some scenarios and specific need for
additional common vocabulary?
dsr: yes, that's the general idea
... but be careful what we are trying to standardize vs. what
we need to define for plugfest
danh: work from concrete scenarios and what is available
victor: has an outstanding PR with some of these concepts
danh: start with scenarios, then build recipes etc on top of
that
victor: share screen with the PR material
<kaz> [12]Pull Request 331 by Victor
[12] https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/331
victor: same table as shown in TD meeting, PR #331
... integrates many vocabularies including geospatial, etc.
darko: need scenarios to be described, how to motivate people
to implement the annotation
victor: the intention is that participants will annotate their
TDs
kaz: how can we collaborate with TD and consolidate the
discussion, can we have a joint call before the F2F?
mjkoster: need a follow-on discussion on the semantic
annotation
Semantic processing
danh: bring up PR on screen
... enable discovery using terms from different vocabularies
... based on a semantic bridge
... ontology to consolidate other ontologies
dsr: decoupled ontology development is more scalable, and can
be harmonized using intermediary concepts in a bridging
ontology
danh: like an integration context?
dsr: provide common concepts across ontologies
... can't always map directly
danh: there are some different techniques for bridging
dsr: looking at existing work e.g. inter-iot (reference?)
danh: maybe going different directions but targeting the same
result
... using sub-class mapping rules developed for domain-specific
models
dsr: a bridging ontology can be used for discovery, for
adaptation there may be more logic involved e.g. translation
... use concrete concepts like temperature, etc.
<dsr> mapping may depend on the context, e.g. the data and
metadata
danh: use common scenarios
<dsr> Inter-IoT [13]http://www.inter-iot-project.eu/ have done
a lot of work on mapping between IoT ontologies
[13] http://www.inter-iot-project.eu/
<dsr> They say: INTER-IoT aim is to design, implement and test
a framework that will allow
<dsr> interoperability among different Internet of Things (IoT)
platforms.
victor: tools question?
<victor> I was asking about using the HyLAR JS reasoner
([14]https://www.npmjs.com/package/hylar)
[14] https://www.npmjs.com/package/hylar)
kaz: do we want to work with automatic ontology conversion?
danh: they don't try to convert ontologies but use rules for
mapping
kaz: similar to the topic of binding template
danh: should use logic and reasoner to do the job at scale
kaz: matthias is proposing a separate protocol binding template
topic, because "protocol binding template" is related to all
the other topics including this LD discussion.
... and we can discuss the relationship between one and another
during the next Wednesday call
danh: can demonstrate step by step process that makes it easier
to understand
Thing Description Recipes
darko: third topic, recipes
... example of a recipe to turn on a light when motion is
detected in a room
<DarkoAnicic> Recipe:
[15]https://github.com/wot/blob/master/linked-data/thing-descri
ption-recipes.md
[15] https://github.com/wot/blob/master/linked-data/thing-description-recipes.md
darko: json-ld example
<DarkoAnicic>
[16]https://github.com/wot/tree/master/linked-data/contribution
s/thing-description-recipes
[16] https://github.com/wot/tree/master/linked-data/contributions/thing-description-recipes
darko: please review and comment
... defines the recipe for orchestrating the interaction
capabilities of multiple devices
using iot.schema.org capabilities
maria: are the semantics included in the recipe or imported?
darko: the semantic annotation is included in the recipe, and
is used to discover and configure
... comments?
dsr: this brings up the question of semantic composition vs.
syntactic composition of interfaces?
darko: please contribute to these activities and review/comment
danh: will we still try to converge by the plugfest?
darko: yes, we hope to start the process of convergence
... we need to drive toward involving all the participants
... time is short but we can make some demonstrations and a
simple scenario with the motion sensor + light, temperature
sensor + air conditioner
... follow up over email, no more telcos until F2F
... adjourn and thanks
<kaz> [ adjourned ]
Summary of Action Items
Summary of Resolutions
[End of minutes]
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