[TD-TF] TD Restructuring minutes - 18 January 2017

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  https://www.w3.org/2017/01/18-wot-td-minutes.html

also as text below.

Youngmin, welcome to the WoT IG!

Thanks,

Kazuyuki

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   [1]W3C

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                               - DRAFT -

                       WoT IG - TD Restructuring

18 Jan 2017

   [2]Agenda

      [2]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-ig/2017Jan/0004.html

   See also: [3]IRC log

      [3] http://www.w3.org/2017/01/18-wot-td-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Kaz, Feng, Sebastian, Takuki, Yingying, Youngmin

   Regrets
          Daniel, Dave

   Chair
          Sebastian

   Scribe
          kaz

Contents

     * [4]Topics
         1. [5]Agenda
         2. [6]GitHub issues
         3. [7]Plans and ideas for plugfest
         4. [8]TD topics for Santa Clara meeting
         5. [9]Welcome Youngmin
     * [10]Summary of Action Items
     * [11]Summary of Resolutions
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Agenda

   sebastian: would like to talk about:
   ... 1. github issues
   ... 2. what will be the plugfest scenarios for TD?
   ... 3. and TD topics for the f2f

GitHub issues

   sebastian: (share his screen)
   ... (shows github issues)
   ... 2 issues for TD

   -> [12]https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/283 issue-283

     [12] https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/283

   sebastian: issue on mapping to RDF (283)
   ... should be presented by Dave during the upcoming call
   ... comment from Kellogg as well
   ... mentioning issue on json-ld repo:
   [13]https://github.com/json-ld/json-ld.org/pull/449
   ... will contact him
   ... he lives in US but not sure if he lives in California
   ... another issue from Johannes

     [13] https://github.com/json-ld/json-ld.org/pull/449

   -> [14]https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/263 issue-263

     [14] https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/263

   sebastian: core vocabulary
   ... will discuss later during the upcoming call and the f2f
   ... and next issue on avoiding an array

   -> [15]https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/259 issue-259

     [15] https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/259

   sebastian: would like to avoid talking about concrete
   serialization
   ... would prefer possible multiple serializations
   ... would be great if we could get progress in Santa Clara
   ... property, action and event
   ... need this kind of description
   ... if we could conclusion in Santa Clara, could move forward
   ... easy integration with semantic approach
   ... we have to think about the detail to get concrete
   serialization
   ... may be some dominant representation
   ... those are open issues
   ... please feel free to look at them and give your comments

Plans and ideas for plugfest

   sebastian: got ideas on the wiki

   ->
   [16]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_February_2017,_
   USA,_Santa_Clara f2f wiki

     [16]
https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_February_2017,_USA,_Santa_Clara

   sebastian: taki, do you know about Nimura-san's demo?

   taki: need to check

   sebastian: we should have concrete scenarios for the demos
   ... the question is what we would like to see and experiment
   ... I myself can set up some scenario
   ... please let me know about what you want to see
   ... (shows the Current Practice document)

   -> w3c.github.io/wot/current-practices/wot-practices.html
   current practice document (3.2.6.2.2 Repository section)

   sebastian: need to provide some repository for the plugfest
   ... let me what you would like to see for TD

   kaz: are you ok with having multiple scenarios?
   ... or prefer having some specific scenario including all the
   demos?

   sebastian: depends on the implementations
   ... we can decide if we put everything into only one plugfest
   later
   ... will ask people during the plenary meeting later as well

   kaz: fyi, MMI guys would like to join PlugFest during TPAC in
   Nov. for UI capability

   sebastian: ok
   ... Michael Koster is located in California, and would expect
   his participation
   ... will check during the plenary call
   ... small changes to the Current Document
   ... about the new structure

   ->
   [17]http://w3c.github.io/wot/current-practices/wot-practices.ht
   ml#quick-start-td-samples section 3.2.1

     [17]
http://w3c.github.io/wot/current-practices/wot-practices.html#quick-start-td-samples

   sebastian: maybe make sense to create another specific version
   for the Santa Clara f2f like we did for the Beijing meeting

   ->
   [18]https://w3c.github.io/wot/current-practices/wot-practices-b
   eijing-2016.html Current Practices document for the Beijing
   meeting

     [18]
https://w3c.github.io/wot/current-practices/wot-practices-beijing-2016.html

   sebastian: have to ask you all

   kaz: do you want to publish it as an IG Note?

   sebastian: not at the moment

   kaz: sorry failed to publish the Beijing snapshot version as a
   group note
   ... if we want, we can publish the document as a group note if
   the content is fixed

   sebastian: the content is already fixed for the Santa Clara
   meeting, I think

   kaz: in that case, we can make our TF decision here to publish
   it
   ... and bring the proposal to the main call and get the IG
   approval
   ... (check the TF consensus)

   <dape> publishing -> +1

   (everybody agrees)

   RESOLUTION: the TD TF would like to publish the Santa Clara
   version of the Current Practices document as an IG Note, and
   would like to send it to the IG plenary call

TD topics for Santa Clara meeting

   sebastian: everybody can make proposals on the wiki

   ->
   [19]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_February_2017,_
   USA,_Santa_Clara#Input_Breakout_Topics f2f wiki

     [19]
https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_February_2017,_USA,_Santa_Clara#Input_Breakout_Topics

   sebastian: note that Mathtias is contacting a JSON Schema
   community guy
   ... happy to have them in Santa Clara
   ... and another topic on Type system
   ... and TD model
   ... binary representation as well
   ... if there is anything you want to see, please make your
   proposal on the wiki
   ... McCool also interested in semantics and connection to RDF

   kaz: thought Kajimoto-san and others were interested in
   lifecycle and version management in TD

   sebastian: ok

   kaz: he mentioned he was still working on that

   sebastian: good
   ... any other topics?

   kaz: Youngmin's introduction?

   sebastian: yes, welcome to this TD call, Youngmin!

Welcome Youngmin

   youngmin: from KETI
   ... researching IoT kind of tech
   ... just joined this IG
   ... would like to know specs on your work

   sebastian: welcome!
   ... this is a TF of the WoT IG working on the Thing Description
   ... we have building blocks: Thing Description, Scripting API
   ... TD TF working on vocabulary and semantics
   ... so that machines can understand
   ... how the semantics included in the serialization formats as
   well

   youngmin: ok, tx!

   sebastian: we regularly meet at this time and have another IG
   plenary call
   ... working on f2f preparation, etc., now
   ... later see you at the plenary call as well!
   ... any other topics?

   (none)

   see you in 5 hours!

   [ adjourned ]

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

    1. [20]the TD TF would like to publish the Santa Clara version
       of the Current Practices document as an IG Note, and would
       like to send it to the IG plenary call

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